It also is important to remember that Epicurus's problem was with indoctrination within the Platonic educational system: paideia παιδεία is the word he consistently uses.
Right, but if that it is the only issue, then you could look to the "uneducated" for ethical guidance.
Well... Sometimes that might not be such a bad idea.
Right. I'm not bashing the uneducated (in the school-learning sense). But now you guys are changing the terms of the debate.