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"Nothing comes from nothing" = there are causes for what exists and there are conditions (natural laws) that everything is conditioned and governed by...cows don't pop out of thin air, because they depend on causes and conditions of the material world of matter.
They'd have to be quantum cows to do that! Good point!
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I would push back against the idea of "popping in and out of existence"..... Changing from one *form* to another however is certainly plausible, like ice to water. But the word *existence* is probably exactly what "cannot" happen.
LOL!!! Popping in and out of existence is a figure of speech I've read in regard to this phenomenon. You have a point. They borrow the energy of the quantum vacuum and then return it. So, popping in and out of existence isn't exactly true.
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How tightly is "Nothing comes from Nothing" tied to "Atomism?"
"Atomism" seems to postulate that the way the universe works with regularity is that there are eternal irreducible particles which when moving through empty space come together to form bodies, and that this process explains and underlies the regularity of all that we see.
Would a "plenum" (no empty space anywhere) work just as well?
If not, why not?
Nope, the plenum would be a black hole. Infinite density and energy. You can't make much out of that.
The atoms, produced out of the energy of the Big Bang, would never be "nothing" as nothing doesn't seem to exist. There is the vacuum of space-time which gives the atoms freedom to move and produce all the swell effects we see.
And in my view we have painful proof of why it's important to take a position
You're preaching to the choir.
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So what position are you guys taking as to whether "empty space" exists?
It's there, it's just filled with virtual particles that pop in and out of existence, borrowing the energy of that empty space. All this in addition to the atoms that fly though them.
What is Quantum Fluctuation?|| scienceshorts||
So even a vacuum isn't exactly nothing.
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Ancient drinking water sources left much to be desired. 😝 Not only the sanitation problem, which the alcohol in the wine would address, but the taste problem.
Adding wine to the water would make drinking water more palatable and drinkable.
Why did the ancient Greeks and Romans drink their wine mixed with water?
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Does the article state that quantum foam really doesn't have any existence?
Not at all. It's stating that there is actual experimental evidence, the Casimir effect that demonstrates it does.
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...But It's Free! 😀
Here's a take on tonight's first Monday theme of "Nothing Can Be Created From Nothing".
Nothing doesn't exist!
"Nothing" doesn't exist. Instead, there's "quantum foam" - Big Think
An updated version of Epicurus' idea of an infinite universe filled with infinite particles undergoing the swerve. All courtesy of quantum physics.
Enjoy! 😀
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The question is: To what extent does hearing someone say that they are "feeling no pain" automatically invoke an association that what they mean is that they are "stoned?"
To me, it would be a great extent considering the times I lived in as a young man when I would hear the phrase now and again.
While I'm largely clueless about its connotations today among post baby boomers, a quick AI search tells me it's gained a wider scope. More escape from stresses in general rather than being "stoned". It's a reason that Stoicism has gained such wide interest among the post boomers.
Although stoned works! 🥴
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The video mentions that the Vesuvius area was a famous resort area for the Roman elite.
Some time ago, I read an article that, on the NORTH side of Vesuvius, opposite Pompeii and Herculaneum, a villa was found where the Emperor Augustus died in 14 CE. Decades before the eruption that buried Herculaneum and Pompeii.
Enjoy!
Villa Belonging To Emperor Augustus Finally Unearthed Near Pompeii
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Great video Joshua!
You know, what always impressed me about the preserved organic stuff in Herculaneum and Pompeii was the sectioned loaves of bread. They almost look like you can lay down a few coins and get your birthday cake shaped section of bread and continue down the street.
Unfortunately, they're all really stale.
The form and recipe still exists. Here is a yummy reconstruction:
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Happy 20th. See you next time!
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Recently, on my UTube feed I got a video on ancient Rome and religion. The gist of which was that religion was inseparatable from the state and society. For example, the treasury in ancient Rome was also the Temple of Saturn. Atheism was almost unthinkable when society and religion were so tightly intertwined.
Of course, ancient Rome isn't ancient Greece, but I thought they might be similar and sure enough they were. Ancient Greek religion was deeply intertwined with Greek society in a similar way as in ancient Rome. It was the glue that held separate city states together with a common Greek identity. As this video shows:
Epicurus was and has widely been criticized for atheism, but he very likely was a theist with a different and realistic as opposed to idealistic view of the gods than was common. He even says so:
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Good point.
This guy is a popular author. And, like you say, he's giving us his perspective from a self-help venue, which is what he knows.
His sort of article is going to be how most people are introduced Epicureanism.
They want the scholarly stuff we've got that here! 😉
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Good point! The editing could have been a little bit better. 😄
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Popular article on Epicureanism that I thought might be of interest.
Fun read.An alternative to stoicism that offers true contentment (yahoo.com)
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Wow! 😮 I'm just astonished by that archery video! The bowmen must have been incredibly deadly.
Who needs a machine gun when you have skills like that.
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"Physicalism," like "materialism," is a word that says nothing about:
(1) canonics - doesn't tell you anything much about the role of logic and reason and how to think.
(2) ethics - doesn't tell you anything about the role of pleasure vs virtue, and really doesn't say much even about the gods, because some (even the Stoics apparently) take the position that supernatural gods are physical.
(3) and it also doesn't tell you anything much, even in physics, about whether the universe is subject to "hard determinism" or whether there is any degree of free agency.
Hi Cassius!
No, it doesn't because all that stuff is different branches of philosophy, aside from the branch of metaphysics as the concept of physicalism.
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I have been thinking about how important it is to be grounded in a realistic worldview of matter and phenomenon having natural causes. Back in the September first Monday Zoom, we discussed what this worldview should be labeled, and the concensus in that meeting was the label "materialism". However I see a problem with that label because it has a double meaning (the belief that money and material possessions are the most important thing in life - which is not what Epicureans believe at all) and wondering if we could come up with a better label.
There IS a better label Kalosyni!
>>In philosophy, physicalism is the view that "everything is physical", that there is "nothing over and above" the physical,[1] or that everything supervenes on the physical.[2] It is opposed to idealism, according to which the world arises from mind. Physicalism is a form of ontological monism—a "one substance" view of the nature of reality, unlike "two-substance" (mind–body dualism) or "many-substance" (pluralism) views. Both the definition of "physical" and the meaning of physicalism have been debated.
Physicalism is closely related to materialism, and has evolved from materialism with advancements in the physical sciences in explaining observed phenomena. The terms "physicalism" and "materialism" are often used interchangeably, but can be distinguished based on their philosophical implications. Physicalism encompasses matter, but also energy, physical laws, space, time, structure, physical processes, information, state, and forces, among other things, as described by physics and other sciences, as part of the physical in a monistic sense. From a physicalist perspective, even abstract concepts such as mathematics, morality, consciousness, intentionality, and meaning are considered physical entities, although they may consist of a large ontological object and a causally complex structure.[3]
According to a 2020 survey, physicalism is the majority view among philosophers,[4] but there also remains significant opposition to physicalism.<<
