Right. We can use that facility for everything except martins physical book idea - and we might even be able to use it for that.
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As to Goodreads perhaps we create an Epicurean section?
I am thinking that Martin is focused on the community-building aspects of person to person physical books, but Martin tell me if otherwise.
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Yes even though there are numbers of "grey market sites" where they can be downloaded, it's not a good idea to post here and be trading PDFs of modern works that we know to be in copyright, for which distribution would appear to be in violation of applicable laws.
In addition to books another difficult area is that of PDFs imprinted and downloaded from JSTOR, of which the status is not particularly clear but which seems likely to be controversial.
I think Martin's main idea here is that of person-to-person forwarding of hard-copy books as in the example in the photos.
Being one myself, I wonder if this is likely to appeal only to "Boomers," but that doesn't mean we should not do it. "We" (superannuated as "we" are) are probably the only ones who still have hard-copy libraries, and as we "age out" (when the play ceases to please us
) do we really want our books to end up at the local Thrift store when we are gone? Nope.Death may be nothing to us but we need to make provisions for our Epicurean books!
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I was listening to the final product and caught Kalosyni's comment to the effect that a simple "atheist" perspective is not nearly sufficient as a full worldview. That's an important benefit that Epicurus can bring to people who know enough to reject supernatural religion, but who don't know where to go from there and think that Western philosophy offers them nothing. That's something that Nietsche pointed out - that until Christianity took over (like bad money drives out good), many of the greatest minds of Greece and Rome were Epicurean.
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Martin are you able to edit this page?
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We also have a page dedicated to the book here:
DeWitt (Norman) - "Epicurus And His Philosophy" - Epicureanfriends.comADMIN EDIT: Norman DeWitt's "Epicurus and His Philosophy" is available in PDF and EPUB format at various places around the internet, and is also available in…www.epicureanfriends.com -
A full preview of the entirely of chapter one of Epicurus and His Philosophy is available at Google Books here:
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I fixed the extra attachment Martin.
Sounds like a great idea.
Possibly we ought to expand the list of exceptions so that it includes all books that are overtly modern politics so as to not violate our general forum rules, but in this case I would not consider it inappropriate to trade copies of books devoted to other philosophies or most amy other topic beyond what you listed.
Over the years I have had people send me books, and lent some from my library, and I think this is a great idea toward building community.
We can set up a table feature using the "lexicon" tool and allow all registered members of a certain level of participation to edit the list.
We can set that up and post a link here in the thread.
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Welcome to Episode One Hundred Forty-Six of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the only complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world.
Each week we'll walk you through the ancient Epicurean texts, and we'll discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. If you find the Epicurean worldview attractive, we invite you to join us in the study of Epicurus at EpicureanFriends.com, where you will find a discussion thread for each of our podcast episodes and many other topics.
We're now in the process of a series of podcasts intended to provide a general overview of Epicurean philosophy based on the organizational structure employed by Norman DeWitt in his book "Epicurus and His Philosophy."
This week we take a look at the three major divisions of Epicurean philosophy. Now let's join the discussion:
Epicurus employed teaching devices which are important in understanding his philosophy.
- Setting The 'Attitude' or (diathesis, Greek). This device stresses at the very beginning the attitude to take toward the subject. For example, the Principal doctrines set the attitude to take toward gods, death, pleasure, and pain.
- Start With An 'Outline' or the 'Synoptic View.' This means starting with the 'big picture' before proceeding to detailed discussion of the finer points, so that the fine points are kept in perspective. Epicurus' teachings were therefore presented in order from the general to the particular.
- Physics:
- The first principles of Physics were presented as the Twelve Elementary Principles
- The First Epitome of Physics was the Letter to Herodotus
- The Second Epitome of Physics is what we have today as the material adapted into poem form in Lucretius On The Nature of Things.
- The Full presentation of Physics was the Thirty-Seven Books on Nature.
- Ethics:
- Ethical passages of 40 Doctrines
- Letter to Menoeceus
- Longer Works Now Lost.
- Canonics:
- Epistemological passages of 40 Doctrines
- Epistemological passages in “On the Nature of Things”
- The “Celestial Book” on Canonics now lost.
- Warning: View The Literature On Epicurus With Great Care
- Little remains of the trustworthy texts other than a small amount of original material from Epicurus, supplemented by the poem of Lucretius. The secondary literature is mostly hostile and cannot be received uncritically. Most modern scholars prefer to “hunt with the pack” and take the secondary literature at face value. This results in the greatly distorted picture of Epicurus dominant today.
- In separating out the false material it is useful to employ another device used by Epicurus: that of contrasting and opposing “True Opinions” against “False Opinions.”
- Physics:
We're starting a new series in the "Lucretius Today" podcast. We'll be going through Norman DeWitt's Book "Epicurus and His Philosophy" and working to provide a basic overview of the philosophy from the ground up. Our first installment - Episode 145 - The Philosophy of Epicurus - Part 1 - Chapter 1 of "Epicurus And His Philosophy" is now available:
Thanks for that Link. I need to explore what an "OpenAthens" account entails.
In the meantime here is one of his most significant articles, that serves as sort of a precursor to the book itself:
FileNorman DeWitt - Philosophy For The Millions (1947)
Norman DeWitt's 1947 article summarizing he significance of Epicurus and his philosophy.
CassiusJuly 11, 2022 at 12:04 PM Logistical question: If we get a 404 Error and can't access the site, how do we contact you to tell you we can't access the site?
Great question and this is a great time to update the home page with this information, mentioned in the past here: Backup Communications for EpicureanFriends.com
We'll add a box to the right sidebar that highlights this URL - CassiusAmicus.com. That URL was chosen as a name that's hopefully easy to remember in the event of an emergency. It's nothing but a "link tree" of other places where we should be able to communicate in the event of extended downtime, such as Facebook, Twitter, and other established accounts that should not be affected in the event of a problem with our main host.
As a practical matter it's likely that the best place to report outages and communicate when the forum is down will be the newly-established Telegram group which can be found by clicking here.
Most of us don't monitor Facebook regularly, but it's also likely that if something were to happen to the main site it would be discussed at the Facebook group here.
Last "tech support" post: I just identified the problem which i know affected at least two separate accounts. if you were logged in this morning when the site went off line, your browser may have continued to attempt to connect and thereby triggered the hosting provider to think that you were a hacker, which automatically added your IP address to a ban list. Therefore if you have any trouble logging in from any device, let us know and we can arrange to remove you from that list, and that should fix any problem anyone has. End of tech report!
Is anyone experiencing any weird connection issues that the site is working properly on some internet devices but not on others (probably with different internet connections)?
Episode 144 - The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda (Part Four) "Virtue Not the Highest Good" is now available!
Simple explanation in two words: "Administrator Incompetence"
I hope you didn't lose anything; I know you tend to write in the mornings first thing. I doubt that any loss of data happened because I don't think the database in which messages are stored was affected. But if anyone notices anything please let me know.
For reasons yet unknown we had a couple of hours of downtime this morning, with the forum reporting 404 errors. If anyone was affected by this and/or notices anything strange on the forum, please report in this thread. Thank you!
Kalosyni asked me about this forum feature recently and why we weren't making more use of it. I responded that I really didn't know how it might work for us, but today I saw an example of a website devoted to a certain topic (internet browsers) but which had cultivated a large community with people who wanted to share their "outside" interests with others in the community. Here's that example, at Vivaldi.net: https://blogs.vivaldi.net
So with that as background we have moved the blogs section into easier focus, and it can now be accessed at its own memorable URL as https://Blogs.EpicureanFriends.com
All users here with user level about 3 (which should include most all of our regulars - if not, please ask) can have their own blog section and post articles that will be categorized under their names. (You can post without having a category for your name, but if you would like all your posts gathered under your name, let an Adminstrator know and we will add your name to the category list.)
The main advantage of posting your blog posts here, rather than perhaps your own private blog a Wordpress.com or similar sites, is that (hopefully!) we have a little more traffic from known friendly acquaintances who will come across your posts more readily here than if they just had to find you with a general Google search. (Nevertheless, it's a good idea for you to have another location to preserve your work in case this site has technical issues.)
The top of the page has this posting guideline:
QuoteHere regular members of the EpicureanFriends community are invited to post personal articles about a wide range of topics, even those that aren't strictly philosophical, but which our members find relevant to happy living. Our topic rules are relaxed in this section, but please continue to follow the general guidelines of posting here at EpicureanFriends.com, which means primarily: Don't post about current politics or advocacy of positions that are clearly contrary to core Epicurean positions on supernatural religion, life after death, and the like.
There's a long tag/category list that includes the following - we can add more if needed.
CATEGORIES
- Epicurean Ethics19
- Epicurean Physics6
- Epicurean Canonics8
- Epicurean History8
- General27
- Family0
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- Literature & Poetry0
- Movies & TV0
- Music0
- Pets0
- Photography0
- Security and Privacy0
- Productivity0
- Science0
- Sports0
- Technology0
- Travel0
- Miscellaneous
We probably already have many posts in the forums on the above topics, and this sectioning off is not meant to replace forum posting in any way. It's primarily aimed at topics (Pets, Food, Travel, etc) that are only tangentially related with the core Epicurean focus of the website, and it's intended to be a place were regulars here who want to communicate with other regulars can post about their interests without fear of being "off-topic."
We can make course adjustments if and when the section starts being used. Let us know your comments in the thread below.
Finding Things At EpicureanFriends.com
Here is a list of suggested search strategies:
- Website Overview page - clickable links arrranged by cards.
- Forum Main Page - list of forums and subforums arranged by topic. Threads are posted according to relevant topics. The "Uncategorized subforum" contains threads which do not fall into any existing topic (also contains older "unfiled" threads which will soon be moved).
- Search Tool - icon is located on the top right of every page. Note that the search box asks you what section of the forum you'd like to search. If you don't know, select "Everywhere."
- Search By Key Tags - curated to show frequently-searched topics.
- Full Tag List - an alphabetical list of all tags.