Son has a question

  • My 7 year old wants to celebrate the 20th with me this month. He asks if anyone knows of a modern cheese that would be similar to Epicurus's favorite?

    Also he asks when will Catius's Cat have another story? :)

  • 2 - I have to confess I have no timetable for Catius' Cat having another story, but I will see what I can do!

    1 - I am afraid I do not know much about Greek cheese's but I will see if I can get Elli to comment - she would definitely know! But as another possible food choice, it seems clear that Epicurus was partial to figs, so I would suggest you incorporate those even more than cheese.

  • Very good, Brad! Is that your son in the cover photo of your "wall" here?

    I wonder if he is too young to appreciate "A Few Days In Athens"? Have you read that yourself - what do you think?

    If we have the possibility here of testing out some potential Epicurean teaching on a real-life young person, we really ought to take advantage of that and get some feedback on what approaches might be most useful.

  • Hello and joy to all the epicurean friends, :)

    “Send me a pot of cheese, so that I may be able to indulge myself whenever I wish.” - Epicurus, Fragments §39.

    The earliest references to cheese production in Greece date from the 8th century BC: the technology to make cheese from sheep's or goat's milk described in Homer's Odyssey (involving the contents of Polyphemus's cave) is similar to that used by Greek shepherds today to produce feta. Cheese made from sheep's or sheep's and goat's milk was a common food in ancient Greece and an integral component of later Greek gastronomy. Feta cheese specifically is first recorded in the Byzantine Empire (Poem on Medicine 1.209) under the name prósphatos (Greek: πρόσφατος, "recent" or "fresh"), and was produced by the Cretans and the Vlachs of Thessaly. In the late 15th century, an Italian visitor to Candia, Pietro Casola, describes the marketing of feta, as well as its storage in brine.

    The Greek word feta (φέτα) comes from the Italian word "fetta" ("slice"), which in turn is derived from the Latin word offa ("a morsel", "piece"). It was introduced into the Greek language in the 17th century, became a widespread term in the 19th century, and probably refers to the practice of slicing cheese in order to place the slices into barrels.

    Certification : After a long legal battle with Denmark, which produced a cheese under the same name using chemically blanched cow's milk, the term "feta" became a protected designation of origin (PDO) in October 2002—which limits "feta" within the European Union to mean brined cheese made exclusively of sheep's or sheep's and goat's milk in the following regions of Greece: Peloponnese, Central Greece, Epirus, Thessaly, Macedonia, Thrace, and the islands of Lesvos and Cephalonia.

  • I have a question to my American friends, and maybe Hiram would be more informed about that : Please, do you find there in USA the famous lemons that are from Amalfi - Sorrento ? It is a region in Italy and the distance between Ercolano and Amalfi Coast is 27 km. The road distance is 53.8 km.

    Beauty and virtue and such are worthy of honor, if they bring pleasure; but if not then bid them farewell!

  • Elli, and all friends.

    I am pleased to announce that we have found Greek Feta at our local Lidl market. We have preserved figs, we will get Feta and Pita bread for our 20th. I also have some very good, but cheap Port that I and my wife Amanda will have. James and David will have their favorite soft drink.

    Good health and cheer to all,


  • Oh, good to hear that Brad, it is really delicious combination with Pita bread, and also with tomatoes. I did not know that Market Lidl exist in USA !!

    Beauty and virtue and such are worthy of honor, if they bring pleasure; but if not then bid them farewell!

  • Also: I have no experience and have not given too much thought to issues involving age here on the forum, but it strikes me Bradley that as your children get older and you introduce them to the internet it would be great for some of us to be able to talk philosophy with them here! ;) Most all of our content is already family-friendly , but perhaps at some point we could set up a "children's section" where people of a certain age could only see that or limited other sections.

    As many of you know I have been thinking in terms of "Epicurus College" as a project for ongoing learning for us adults, but it would be a desirable and inevitable part of any true Epicurean "movement" to experiment and work toward methods of introducing Epicurus to younger people.