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    Hello and thank you for the welcome.

    I'm writing from Australia. I came to Epicureanism after struggling with loneliness and the sense that it's become increasingly difficult to find thoughtful, sincere friendships. Many of the people I meet seem caught up in chasing status or possessions, while others have turned to traditional religion, nationalism, or conspiracy theories—especially in the wake of the pandemic. Amid all that noise, Epicurus's quiet emphasis on friendship, modest pleasure, and freedom from fear felt like a lifeline.

    I've read the Letter to Menoeceus, parts of Lucretius, and some modern commentary. I'm still exploring how to apply these ideas in daily life, especially around katastematic pleasure and simplicity. I'm glad to have found this community and look forward to learning more.

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    Thanks for the thoughtful opening post. Welcome aboard!

    If you're interested in a deep dive into the letter to Menoikeus (my transliteration of his Greek name), I'll offer my translation and commentary available here: Epicurus's Letter to Menoikeus - A New Translation with Commentary

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    Thanks so much for the warm welcome, Don! I really appreciate you sharing your translation and commentary on Epicurus’s Letter to Menoikeus — I’m definitely interested in a deep dive. I look forward to exploring your work and engaging with the nuances of the text.

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    Thanks Martin! Happy to be here.

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    Welcome DistantLaughter !

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

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    Please understand that the leaders of this forum are well aware that many fans of Epicurus may have sincerely-held views of what Epicurus taught that are incompatible with the purposes and standards of this forum. This forum is dedicated exclusively to the study and support of people who are committed to classical Epicurean views. As a result, this forum is not for people who seek to mix and match Epicurean views with positions that are inherently inconsistent with the core teachings of Epicurus.

    All of us who are here have arrived at our respect for Epicurus after long journeys through other philosophies, and we do not demand of others what we were not able to do ourselves. Epicurean philosophy is very different from most other philosophies, and it takes time to understand how deep those differences really are. That's why we have membership levels here at the forum which allow for new participants to discuss and develop their own learning, but it's also why we have standards that will lead in some cases to arguments being limited, and even participants being removed, when the purposes of the community require it. Epicurean philosophy is not inherently democratic, or committed to unlimited free speech, or devoted to any other form of organization other than the pursuit of truth and happy living through pleasure as explained in the principles of Epicurean philosophy.

    One way you can be assured of your time here will be productive is to tell us a little about yourself and your background in reading Epicurean texts. It would also be helpful if you could tell us how you found this forum, and any particular areas of interest that you already have.

    You can also check out our Getting Started page for ideas on how to use this website.

    We have found over the years that there are a number of key texts and references which most all serious students of Epicurus will want to read and evaluate for themselves. Those include the following.

    "Epicurus and His Philosophy" by Norman DeWitt

    The Biography of Epicurus by Diogenes Laertius. This includes the surviving letters of Epicurus, including those to Herodotus, Pythocles, and Menoeceus.

    "On The Nature of Things" - by Lucretius (a poetic abridgement of Epicurus' "On Nature"

    "Epicurus on Pleasure" - By Boris Nikolsky

    The chapters on Epicurus in Gosling and Taylor's "The Greeks On Pleasure."

    Cicero's "On Ends" - Torquatus Section

    Cicero's "On The Nature of the Gods" - Velleius Section

    The Inscription of Diogenes of Oinoanda - Martin Ferguson Smith translation

    A Few Days In Athens" - Frances Wright

    Lucian Core Texts on Epicurus: (1) Alexander the Oracle-Monger, (2) Hermotimus

    Philodemus "On Methods of Inference" (De Lacy version, including his appendix on relationship of Epicurean canon to Aristotle and other Greeks)

    "The Greeks on Pleasure" -Gosling & Taylor Sections on Epicurus, especially the section on katastematic and kinetic pleasure which explains why ultimately this distinction was not of great significance to Epicurus.

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    Welcome Distantlaughter. Our timezone difference led to a delay in creating a new thread for you but thanks for going ahead and posting. Seems we get lots of visitors from your part of the world and it's good to have you here.

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