The Relationship of Pleasure To "Good" And Pain To "Evil" - All Good and Evil Consists in Sensation

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    2. Torquatus' Statement of the Epicurean View Of The Ultimate Good In "On Ends" 26

      • Cassius
      • September 28, 2021 at 5:35 AM
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    2. The Full Cup / Fullness of Pleasure Model 2

      • Cassius
      • January 30, 2016 at 7:10 PM
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    2. Common Objections and Responses

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      • April 29, 2015 at 4:00 PM
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    2. Psychopaths and Pleasure 3

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      • May 18, 2015 at 10:56 AM
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    2. Loving Life? Or Loving Anesthesia?

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    2. Excellent Article on the Nature of Pleasure

      • Cassius
      • February 3, 2016 at 9:19 PM
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    2. Pleasure, "Absence of Pain," and Two States of Feeling

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      • July 12, 2016 at 4:25 PM
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    2. "Absence of Pain" In Cicero's "On Ends"

      • Cassius
      • September 18, 2016 at 8:16 AM
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    2. Theophrastus - Perception is generally pleasurable....

      • Cassius
      • September 24, 2016 at 3:00 PM
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    2. Simonides - Without pleasure, not even the life of the gods is enviable.

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      • September 24, 2016 at 3:02 PM
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    2. Socrates / Plato - The Pursuit of Pleasure as "cookery" or "flattery"

      • Cassius
      • September 24, 2016 at 3:28 PM
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    2. The Goal of Life - From Torquatus in "On Ends"

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      • January 12, 2017 at 12:17 PM
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    2. For Those Who Dispute That Pleasurable Living Is the Goal of Life, What Would You Say Is The Goal Instead?

      • Cassius
      • March 11, 2017 at 6:02 PM
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    2. Cicero’s Presentation of Epicurean Ethics – Fake News?

      • Cassius
      • March 11, 2017 at 6:10 PM
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    2. In Life, There is No Antidote to Pain But Pleasure

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      • December 10, 2017 at 11:22 AM
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      • December 10, 2017 at 11:22 AM
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    2. Living The Hobo Life? 11

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      • January 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM
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      • January 8, 2018 at 11:54 PM
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    2. More on "Simple Pleasures" 3

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      • January 15, 2018 at 8:33 PM
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      • January 16, 2018 at 8:10 AM
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    2. How epicureanism has been helping me deal with overindulgence 6

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      • January 24, 2018 at 11:54 PM
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    2. Another Summary, This Time Prompted by Eoghan

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      • April 28, 2018 at 10:07 AM
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    2. Pleasure As the Goal - A Blog Post by Eoghan Gardiner

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      • May 11, 2018 at 5:44 PM
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    2. Considering the Importance of Mental Pleasures 3

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      • May 30, 2018 at 2:09 PM
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    2. Commentary on "The Ultimate Tranquilizer"

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      • September 24, 2018 at 11:14 AM
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    2. An Exchange On The Subject of Ataraxia As "The Ultimate Pleasure"

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      • November 5, 2018 at 4:07 PM
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    2. Nature Didn't Give Us A Faculty of "Something Else"

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      • December 17, 2018 at 8:13 PM
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    2. Getting Oriented - Where To Start For NewComers

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      • May 16, 2019 at 9:01 AM
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    2. Another Aspect of PD3's "The Limit of Quantity In Pleasures..." - Pleasure Is A Matter For Individual / Flexible Measurement

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      • July 6, 2019 at 9:29 AM
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    2. Nature and Pleasure and Pain 9

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    2. Is Pleasure the Only Good? 7

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      • September 15, 2019 at 2:05 PM
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    2. Pleasure vs Happiness (?) Discussion of Hiram's "In Defense of Eudaimonia" 36

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      • October 20, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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    2. How Much Pleasure Is Needed For A Happy Life? 1

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      • November 11, 2019 at 9:13 AM
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    2. Is All Desire Painful? How Would Epicurus Answer? 24

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