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TauPhi
November 5, 2025 at 4:55 PM Replied to the thread Any Recommendations on “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”?.Post[…]
I second that. It was one of the first books on Epicurean philosophy I've read and to this day I don't regret it. The amount of information there is extraordinary. -
Eikadistes
November 5, 2025 at 4:33 PM Replied to the thread Any Recommendations on “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”?.PostIt's an exceptional resource. It also may not be the best resource for new students.
As an academic text, The Handbook is organized as a collection of essays from respected scholars. In total (in over 800 pages), they present a synoptic view of Epicurean… -
Cassius
November 5, 2025 at 3:35 PM Replied to the thread Any Recommendations on “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”?.PostIf you get it please be sure to let us know your thoughts. I don't remember reading myself. -
Patrikios
November 5, 2025 at 3:03 PM Posted the thread Any Recommendations on “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”?.ThreadAfter scanning the Epicurean Friends ‘Recommended Reading’ webpage, and the New Epicurean library; I find no recommendation for “The Oxford Handbook of Epicurus and Epicureanism”. Has anyone read it, and are the translations acceptable?
I’m reading… -
Pacatus
November 5, 2025 at 1:20 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
In their somewhat technical language, the Stoics differentiate between πάθη (the “bad” passions/emotions, e.g. anger, resentment) and εὐπάθη (the “good” passions/emotions, e.g., joy). -
Pacatus
November 5, 2025 at 1:12 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
Actually, the likes of Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius criticize and reject seeking such esteem. On the rest, I think you are spot on.
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Kalosyni
November 4, 2025 at 8:57 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
Epicureans seek pleasure, but at times they endure pain when it prevents a greater pain or leads to the pleasures that come with necessary things like food/shelter/health of the body and happiness of the soul -- This can be found in the Letter to… -
Matteng
November 4, 2025 at 4:13 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.PostMartin , yes in core the hedonic calculus, an yes maybe a better word for the difference would be arational ( I have never read it ) for unconscious or without needed reason and irrational (often negative seen ).
Eikadistes , yes the difference… -
Eikadistes
November 4, 2025 at 8:09 AM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
As far as I know, each tradition's evaluation of "desire" and "passion" contradict.
For Epicureans, "feeling", itself, is one of the principle criteria of knowledge. We accept that the "affective sympathies" we feel are as informative as the colors we… -
Martin
November 4, 2025 at 4:55 AM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
There seems to be a mix-up of two different usages of "irrational":
The usage in the quote seems to indicate that "irrational" is something "bad", against reason, to be avoided.
The other usage is neutral and refers to sensations, emotions, feelings… -
Kalosyni
November 3, 2025 at 1:50 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.PostHere is a modern psychology article that is a must-read for anyone interested in the role of feelings and emotions in well-being:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/harnes…l-your-feelings -
Kalosyni
November 3, 2025 at 1:20 PM Replied to the thread November 3, 2025 - New Member Meet and Greet (First Monday Via Zoom 8pm ET).PostI just verified with Cassius that the First Monday Meet and Greet Zoom for tonight is officially canceled. We hold the meeting on an as-needed basis for new members. We will set up another as soon as we have the need, so anyone with interest or questions… -
Kalosyni
November 3, 2025 at 10:37 AM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.Post[…]
Thank you Matteng for pointing this out.
Perhaps there is a way to fine-tune the differences, however, and especially because both feelings and emotions are important for making sense of the world, and so we need them as valid input for making good… -
Cassius
November 2, 2025 at 3:30 PM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.Post[…]
Eikadistes I agree with this general concern, but as of yet I have not (to my memory) run into anything spoken by Velleius that I have found reason to question as being in actual or potential conflict with any other authoritative texts. Have you seen… -
Cassius
November 2, 2025 at 3:21 PM Replied to the thread November 3, 2025 - New Member Meet and Greet (First Monday Via Zoom 8pm ET).PostLooks like at the moment that we don't have any RSVP's for tomorrow night, and now we have the additional factor that Kalosyni is not feeling well. For that reason it's looking very unlikely that we will have a session tomorrow night (November 3, 2025).… -
Eikadistes
November 2, 2025 at 11:42 AM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.Post[…]
Cicero, himself, visited the Athenian Garden under the leadership of Zḗnōn of Sidon, a scholarch who instructed Philódēmos — Philódēmos, himself, was a contemporary of Cicero. Many of Cicero's texts are responses to contemporary philosophical… -
Cassius
November 2, 2025 at 10:08 AM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.PostThat question comes at an opportune time so in addition to discussing it here we'll address it in today's podcast recording! -
DaveT
November 2, 2025 at 9:47 AM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.PostI finished listening just now. I enjoyed this audio and found it easily understandable, especially with the subtitles.
My first reaction to Cicero's style while writing as Vellius, was that he could have been a writer for the late American comedian George… -
Cassius
November 2, 2025 at 4:05 AM Replied to the thread Happy Birthday General Thread.PostHappy Birthday to Sweetopac! Learn more about Sweetopac and say happy birthday on Sweetopac's timeline: Sweetopac -
Matteng
November 1, 2025 at 6:19 PM Replied to the thread Stoic view of passions / patheia vs the Epicurean view.PostFirst I see is that it is all about mental (self caused ) Emotions, bodily pain/ pleasure is out. In Stoicism this are indifferents and in control of fate/nature/logos.
When I understood Philodemus right, I think the Epicurean view would only match with… -
Don
November 1, 2025 at 4:37 PM Replied to the thread Should Epicureans Celebrate Something Else Instead of Celebrating Halloween?.Post[…]
That sounds like a perfect fit. -
Cassius
November 1, 2025 at 3:55 PM Posted the thread Episode 306 - To Be Recorded.ThreadWelcome to Episode 306 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the… -
sanantoniogarden
November 1, 2025 at 3:48 PM Replied to the thread Should Epicureans Celebrate Something Else Instead of Celebrating Halloween?.Post[…]
Here in San Antonio, Texas, Dia de los Muertos is widely celebrated and does include supernatural elements at odds with core EP teachings. However some elements such as leaving offerings for the ancestors at the ofrenda, like personal items belonging… -
Cassius
November 1, 2025 at 1:35 PM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.PostThanks for the input Steve, It's my intent to lower expectations to reduce disappointment, but yes it's already much better than the older TTS i used some years ago. And it's just going to get better over time. In the meantime, as we listen to this… -
kochiekoch
November 1, 2025 at 11:27 AM Replied to the thread Velleius - Epicurus On The True Nature Of Divinity - New Home Page Video.PostI actually sat and watched this thing. 🙂
It was pretty good, and the format that you have set up as is good for study. It's better than just sitting down reading it.
As for the quality, I didn't think it was so bad despite your concerns. Already watched… -
kochiekoch
November 1, 2025 at 11:14 AM Replied to the thread Should Epicureans Celebrate Something Else Instead of Celebrating Halloween?.PostI may have seen one of those funeral masks Kalosyni.
Years ago, the museum here, had an exposition of Roman artifacts. One of which was a couple of bronze masks of people from that era. One! I remember had extremely deep wrinkles! He must have got a… -
Cassius
PostNovember 1, 2025 at 10:32 AM Episode 305 of the Lucretius Today Podcast is now available. This week our episode is entitled: "Shall We Stoically Be A Spectator To Life And Content Ourselves With 'Virtue?'"
[media]https://www.spreaker.com/episode/68378726/media -
Cassius
November 1, 2025 at 4:05 AM Replied to the thread Happy Birthday General Thread.PostHappy Birthday to Al-Hakiim von Grof! Learn more about Al-Hakiim von Grof and say happy birthday on Al-Hakiim von Grof's timeline: Al-Hakiim von Grof -
Godfrey
October 31, 2025 at 9:59 PM Replied to the thread Should Epicureans Celebrate Something Else Instead of Celebrating Halloween?.PostLately I've become interested in Dia de los Muertos as something compatible with EP. At least as far as remembering and celebrating our deceased loved ones. It probably has a supernatural element that isn't compatible but, at least for me that's easily… -
Cassius
October 31, 2025 at 7:24 PM Replied to the thread November 3, 2025 - New Member Meet and Greet (First Monday Via Zoom 8pm ET).PostThanks for letting us know, and hope to see you another time.
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