1. Home
    1. Start Here: Study Guide
    2. Community Standards And Posting Policies
    3. Terms of Use
    4. Moderator Team
    5. Website Overview
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
    9. All Blog Posts
      1. Elli's Blog / Articles
  2. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Files
    5. Search Assistance
    6. Not NeoEpicurean
    7. Foundations
    8. Navigation Outlines
    9. Reading List
    10. Key Pages
  3. Forum
    1. Full Forum List
    2. Welcome Threads
    3. Physics
    4. Canonics
    5. Ethics
    6. Forum Shortcuts
    7. Forum Navigation Map
    8. Featured
    9. Most Discussed
  4. Latest
    1. New Activity
    2. Latest Threads
    3. Dashboard
    4. Search By Tag
    5. Complete Tag List
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Collection
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. More
    1. Featured Content
    2. Calendar
      1. Upcoming Events List
      2. Zooms - General Info
      3. Fourth Sunday Meet-&-Greet
      4. Sunday Weekly Zoom
      5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    3. Logbook
    4. EF ToDo List
    5. Link-Database
  • Login
  • Register
  • Search
Everywhere
  • Everywhere
  • Forum
  • Articles
  • Blog Articles
  • Files
  • Gallery
  • Events
  • Pages
  • Wiki
  • Help
  • FAQ
  • More Options

Welcome To EpicureanFriends.com!

"Remember that you are mortal, and you have a limited time to live, and in devoting yourself to discussion of the nature of time and eternity you have seen things that have been, are now, and are to come."

Sign In Now
or
Register a new account
  1. Home
    1. Start Here: Study Guide
    2. Community Standards And Posting Policies
    3. Terms of Use
    4. Moderator Team
    5. Website Overview
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
    9. All Blog Posts
      1. Elli's Blog / Articles
  2. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Files
    5. Search Assistance
    6. Not NeoEpicurean
    7. Foundations
    8. Navigation Outlines
    9. Reading List
    10. Key Pages
  3. Forum
    1. Full Forum List
    2. Welcome Threads
    3. Physics
    4. Canonics
    5. Ethics
    6. Forum Shortcuts
    7. Forum Navigation Map
    8. Featured
    9. Most Discussed
  4. Latest
    1. New Activity
    2. Latest Threads
    3. Dashboard
    4. Search By Tag
    5. Complete Tag List
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Collection
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. More
    1. Featured Content
    2. Calendar
      1. Upcoming Events List
      2. Zooms - General Info
      3. Fourth Sunday Meet-&-Greet
      4. Sunday Weekly Zoom
      5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    3. Logbook
    4. EF ToDo List
    5. Link-Database
  1. Home
    1. Start Here: Study Guide
    2. Community Standards And Posting Policies
    3. Terms of Use
    4. Moderator Team
    5. Website Overview
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
    9. All Blog Posts
      1. Elli's Blog / Articles
  2. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Files
    5. Search Assistance
    6. Not NeoEpicurean
    7. Foundations
    8. Navigation Outlines
    9. Reading List
    10. Key Pages
  3. Forum
    1. Full Forum List
    2. Welcome Threads
    3. Physics
    4. Canonics
    5. Ethics
    6. Forum Shortcuts
    7. Forum Navigation Map
    8. Featured
    9. Most Discussed
  4. Latest
    1. New Activity
    2. Latest Threads
    3. Dashboard
    4. Search By Tag
    5. Complete Tag List
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Collection
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. More
    1. Featured Content
    2. Calendar
      1. Upcoming Events List
      2. Zooms - General Info
      3. Fourth Sunday Meet-&-Greet
      4. Sunday Weekly Zoom
      5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    3. Logbook
    4. EF ToDo List
    5. Link-Database
  1. EpicureanFriends - Classical Epicurean Philosophy
  • Sidebar
  • Sidebar

Recent Updates From Across EpicureanFriends.com

New Graphics: Are You On Team Epicurus? | Comparison Chart: Epicurus vs. Other Philosophies 

Recent Activities

  • Don March 3, 2026 at 11:19 PM

    Replied to the thread 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026.
    Post
    Just coming back to this. GREAT JOB finding the English translation option. I'll have to check some of these out. Some of those presentation titles are interesting

    ... and others are "interesting" (said with a quizzical rising tone): Gilgamesh: The…
  • Don March 3, 2026 at 11:11 PM

    Replied to the thread Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!).
    Post
    Welcome aboard!
  • Cornelius Peripateticus March 3, 2026 at 10:26 PM

    Has solved the quiz Basic Epicurean Ethics.
    Quiz
  • Cornelius Peripateticus March 3, 2026 at 9:27 PM

    Replied to the thread Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!).
    Post
    Hello everyone, it's me, Cornelius Peripateticus. I must admit that my nickname is actually nothing more than a playful pun that isn't intended to refer to Aristotelian philosophy (although I love studying, reflecting, and discussing while walking; I…
  • Cassius March 3, 2026 at 4:03 PM

    Replied to the thread Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!).
    Post
    Welcome Cornelius, who has sent me the following information about himself. He sounds fascinating and familiar with the forum rules, so for the time being we'll consider his name to indicate that he likes to exercise his legs, rather than as a statement…
  • Cassius March 3, 2026 at 3:59 PM

    Posted the thread Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!).
    Thread
    Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus !

    There is one last step to complete your registration:

    All new registrants must post a response to this message here in this welcome thread (we do this in order to minimize spam registrations).

    You must post your response…
  • Kalosyni March 1, 2026 at 4:20 PM

    Replied to the thread 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026.
    Post
    […]

    We should set one up, but I seems that it wouild be good to try a preliminary event via Zoom to build attendance. Then once there are the numbers (and show of interest) could then set up an in-person event. But that would require many people to put…
  • Kalosyni March 1, 2026 at 4:13 PM

    Replied to the thread 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026.
    Post
    […]

    Do you remember if he gave definitions of "bliss","eudaimonia", and "psychosomatic health"?
  • Patrikios March 1, 2026 at 12:31 PM

    Replied to the thread 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026.
    Post
    […]

    Cassius

    This presentation by Christos Yapijakis, starts at about 1:19:20 and concludes around 1:41:40.

    I liked his final statement about how we need "bliss" [eudaimonia] to achieve psychosomatic health.

    […]



    I also enjoyed the introductory comments,…
  • Kalosyni March 1, 2026 at 9:52 AM

    Replied to the thread Happy Birthday General Thread.
    Post


    chump Wishing you a Happy Birthday! :)
  • Cassius March 1, 2026 at 8:54 AM

    Replied to the thread 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026.
    Post
    I'm not sure whether this link is included in previous posts, but I see that the Athenians have a youtube page where various presentations can be accessed directly:

    youtube.com/watch?v=5UoUdZnmZso&t=4224s
  • Cassius March 1, 2026 at 4:05 AM

    Replied to the thread Happy Birthday General Thread.
    Post
    Happy Birthday to chump! Learn more about chump and say happy birthday on chump's timeline: chump
  • Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 3:53 PM

    Replied to the thread Sunday March 1, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 184.
    Post
    Cassius From the side-by-side, third column...It looks like these perhaps could be covered as one group?

    Part 8 - The proof that nothing comes from nothing is to look around and see that all things are not born of all things, but from fixed seeds.…
  • Cassius February 28, 2026 at 1:08 PM

    Posted the thread Sunday March 1, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 184.
    Thread
    We'll start this week at line 184 and continue from there

    1-184

    Nay more, there would be no need for lapse of time for the increase of things upon the meeting of the seed, if they could grow from nothing. For little children would grow suddenly to youths,…
  • Cassius February 28, 2026 at 1:02 PM

    Posted the thread Episode 323 - EATAQ 05 - The Three Traditional Divisions of Philosophy - Not Yet Released.
    Thread
    Welcome to Episode 323 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the…
  • Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 12:21 PM

    Replied to the thread "Choice" and "Avoidance".
    Post
    […]

    It is a skill set that we learn over time, and get better at through continued practice.
  • DaveT February 28, 2026 at 10:47 AM

    Replied to the thread "Choice" and "Avoidance".
    Post
    […]

    Yes in many ways this is true and vital for each of us. Yet, I'm thinking about how Epicurus thought we ought to navigate within our ordinary daily habits and small choices. I think they are barely noticeable to us as we go about the day.…
  • Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 8:10 PM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    Here is a diagram that I just made which has the telos at the top and then "climbs down the ladder of abstraction"...and it is still a work in progress ... open to thoughts and suggestions.

  • Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 7:28 PM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    Here is a better article:

    […]

    The link:

    https://bigthink.com/the-learning-c…of-abstraction/

    And another quote:

    […]

    And a third quote:

    […]

  • Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 6:42 PM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    […]

    I presented several ideas in the first post of this thread (the first point should have been addressed in a separate thread):

    Point 1) There is no mandate to spread Epicurean philosophy to the masses

    Point 2) There are some who study Epicurean…
  • Cassius February 27, 2026 at 2:58 PM

    Replied to the thread Episode 322 - EATAQ 04 - Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates.
    Post
    Episode 322 of the Lucretius Today Podcast is now available. This week our episode is entitled: "Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates"

    [media]https://www.spreaker.com/episode/70342091/media
  • bradley.whitley February 27, 2026 at 12:45 PM

    Replied to the thread A Special Birthday Greeting To James!.
    Post
    I have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He…
  • Cassius February 27, 2026 at 9:30 AM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    I should also point out that this quotation in post 7 is a long distance from the point where this thread started out, when your advocated "Joy" as the goal ("Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal").

    That's because katastematic…
  • Cassius February 27, 2026 at 9:01 AM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    The part you have quoted there Kalosyni will be read by some people be circular or worse. It does not specifically identify what "happiness" is apart from pleasure. Further, in equating happiness to "katastematic pleasure" in that last sentence, the…
  • Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 8:30 AM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    I've copied over from that thread (linked in the above post) on Christos' introductory book, which was shared by Christos.

    The following is by Christos Yapijakis:

    […]

  • Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 7:49 AM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    […]

    I wanted to mention that at the last Wednesday night Zoom (for Level 03 and above members), we did have a very good discussion on pleasure/happiness/ataraxia. And in the meeting it was said that it isn't an "either/or" because both sides of this are…
  • Kalosyni February 26, 2026 at 7:55 PM

    Replied to the thread "Choice" and "Avoidance".
    Post
    Just for the record...Bailey's translation of PD25 :

    "If on each occasion, instead of referring your actions to the end of nature, you turn to some other, nearer, standard, when you are making a choice or an avoidance, your actions will not be consistent…
  • Cassius February 26, 2026 at 5:57 PM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    […]

    i strongly agree with this.
  • Patrikios February 26, 2026 at 3:32 PM

    Replied to the thread Episode 321 - EATAQ 03 - The Epicurean Criticism of Socrates For Denouncing Natural Science.
    Post
    […]

    Cassius ,

    Thanks for including this link to that 25 minute segment (~20:00- 45:00).

    Sagan highlights Samos and the Ionian islands as sources of new ideas. They way he shows the sequence of thought is quite helpful, even after reading all of…
  • Matteng February 26, 2026 at 2:18 PM

    Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".
    Post
    Both is necessary to fulfill the natural/necessary desire for Eudaimonia, a life of Pleasure.


    For Ataraxia and removal of Suffering/Pain we need to be active and pursue Pleasures prudently. To hide fearful of pain in a cave let you painfully starve full…

Finding Things At EpicureanFriends.com

Here is a list of suggested search strategies:

  • Website Overview page - clickable links arrranged by cards.
  • Forum Main Page - list of forums and subforums arranged by topic. Threads are posted according to relevant topics. The "Uncategorized subforum" contains threads which do not fall into any existing topic (also contains older "unfiled" threads which will soon be moved).
  • Search Tool - icon is located on the top right of every page. Note that the search box asks you what section of the forum you'd like to search. If you don't know, select "Everywhere."
  • Search By Key Tags - curated to show frequently-searched topics.
  • Full Tag List - an alphabetical list of all tags.

Resources

  1. Getting Started At EpicureanFriends
  2. Community Standards And Posting Policies
  3. The Major Doctrines of Classical Epicurean Philosophy
  4. Introductory Videos
  5. Wiki
  6. Lucretius Today Podcast
    1. Podcast Episode Guide
  7. Key Epicurean Texts
    1. Chart Of Key Quotes
    2. Outline Of Key Quotes
    3. Side-By-Side Diogenes Laertius X (Bio And All Key Writings of Epicurus)
    4. Side-By-Side Lucretius - On The Nature Of Things
    5. Side-By-Side Torquatus On Ethics
    6. Side-By-Side Velleius on Divinity
    7. Lucretius Topical Outline
    8. Usener Fragment Collection
  8. Frequently Asked Questions
    1. FAQ Discussions
  9. Full List of Forums
    1. Physics Discussions
    2. Canonics Discussions
    3. Ethics Discussions
    4. All Recent Forum Activities
  10. Image Gallery
  11. Featured Articles
  12. Featured Blog Posts
  13. Quiz Section
  14. Activities Calendar
  15. Special Resource Pages
  16. File Database
  17. Site Map
    1. Home

Frequently Used Forums

  • Frequently Asked / Introductory Questions
  • News And Announcements
  • Lucretius Today Podcast
  • Physics (The Nature of the Universe)
  • Canonics (The Tests Of Truth)
  • Ethics (How To Live)
  • Against Determinism
  • Against Skepticism
  • The "Meaning of Life" Question
  • Uncategorized Discussion
  • Comparisons With Other Philosophies
  • Historical Figures
  • Ancient Texts
  • Decline of The Ancient Epicurean Age
  • Unsolved Questions of Epicurean History
  • Welcome New Participants
  • Events - Activism - Outreach
  • Full Forum List

Latest Posts

  • 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026

    Don March 3, 2026 at 11:19 PM
  • Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!)

    Don March 3, 2026 at 11:11 PM
  • Happy Birthday General Thread

    Kalosyni March 1, 2026 at 9:52 AM
  • Sunday March 1, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 184

    Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 3:53 PM
  • Episode 323 - EATAQ 05 - The Three Traditional Divisions of Philosophy - Not Yet Released

    Cassius February 28, 2026 at 1:02 PM
  • "Choice" and "Avoidance"

    Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 12:21 PM
  • Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal"

    Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 8:10 PM
  • Episode 322 - EATAQ 04 - Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates

    Cassius February 27, 2026 at 2:58 PM
  • A Special Birthday Greeting To James!

    bradley.whitley February 27, 2026 at 12:45 PM
  • Episode 321 - EATAQ 03 - The Epicurean Criticism of Socrates For Denouncing Natural Science

    Patrikios February 26, 2026 at 3:32 PM

Latest Posts

  • 16th Panhellenic Epicurus Seminar In Athens Greece - February 14, 2026

    Don March 3, 2026 at 11:19 PM
  • Welcome Cornelius Peripateticus! (A name we'll consider genericly rather than as being a dedicated Aristotelian!)

    Don March 3, 2026 at 11:11 PM
  • Happy Birthday General Thread

    Kalosyni March 1, 2026 at 9:52 AM
  • Sunday March 1, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 184

    Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 3:53 PM
  • Episode 323 - EATAQ 05 - The Three Traditional Divisions of Philosophy - Not Yet Released

    Cassius February 28, 2026 at 1:02 PM
  • "Choice" and "Avoidance"

    Kalosyni February 28, 2026 at 12:21 PM
  • Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal"

    Kalosyni February 27, 2026 at 8:10 PM
  • Episode 322 - EATAQ 04 - Epicurean Moral Outrage Against Socrates

    Cassius February 27, 2026 at 2:58 PM
  • A Special Birthday Greeting To James!

    bradley.whitley February 27, 2026 at 12:45 PM
  • Episode 321 - EATAQ 03 - The Epicurean Criticism of Socrates For Denouncing Natural Science

    Patrikios February 26, 2026 at 3:32 PM
  • Thomas Jefferson's "Head and Heart" Letter

    Kalosyni February 26, 2026 at 9:29 AM
  • Welcome MCTIMKAT!

    Don February 25, 2026 at 3:38 PM
  • Critique of the Control Dichotomy as a Useful Strategy

    Cassius February 23, 2026 at 9:29 AM
  • What kinds of goals do Epicureans set for themselves?

    Kalosyni February 23, 2026 at 9:00 AM
  • Sunday February 22, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 174

    Joshua February 22, 2026 at 1:07 PM

Frequently Used Tags

In addition to posting in the appropriate forums, participants are encouraged to reference the following tags in their posts:

  • #Physics
    • #Atomism
    • #Gods
    • #Images
    • #Infinity
    • #Eternity
    • #Life
    • #Death
  • #Canonics
    • #Knowledge
    • #Scepticism
  • #Ethics

    • #Pleasure
    • #Pain
    • #Engagement
    • #EpicureanLiving
    • #Happiness
    • #Virtue
      • #Wisdom
      • #Temperance
      • #Courage
      • #Justice
      • #Honesty
      • #Faith (Confidence)
      • #Suavity
      • #Consideration
      • #Hope
      • #Gratitude
      • #Friendship



Click Here To Search All Tags

To Suggest Additions To This List Click Here

EpicureanFriends - Classical Epicurean Philosophy

  1. Home
    1. About Us
    2. Classical Epicurean Philosophy
  2. Wiki
    1. Getting Started
  3. Frequently Asked Questions
    1. Site Map
  4. Forum
    1. Latest Threads
    2. Featured Threads
    3. Unread Posts
  5. Texts
    1. Core Texts
    2. Biography of Epicurus
    3. Lucretius
  6. Articles
    1. Latest Articles
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured Images
  8. Calendar
    1. This Month At EpicureanFriends
Powered by WoltLab Suite™ 6.0.22
Style: Inspire by cls-design
Stylename
Inspire
Manufacturer
cls-design
Licence
Commercial styles
Help
Supportforum
Visit cls-design