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  • Epicurean Golden Rule?

    • Martin
    • September 30, 2024 at 4:47 AM
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    Why does Diogenes of Oenoanda want to help those who are "well-constituted"? Doesn't that mean helping those who don't need help? Shouldn't he want to help those who are badly constituted? Or does he want to help the rich to lead good lives, such that their examples might spread, and their wealth/power not be abused?

    I guess that "well-constituted" refers to people who are still willing to learn and adapt as they see fit if they encounter ideas which are new for them or which they have neglected in the past.

  • Welcome SillyApe

    • Martin
    • September 26, 2024 at 12:33 PM

    Welcome SillyApe!

  • Eric's personal outline

    • Martin
    • September 23, 2024 at 11:46 AM
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    Likewise, energy and forces are best thought of as falling under "atoms" since as Epicurus meant the term it was simply indivisible particle

    Energy is not indivisible except for transition energies between states of matter. Likewise, forces are not indivisible either. It is good to be aware that forces at a distance (fields) and energy are not covered by Epicurus' and would need to be added as new items to update Epicurean physics.

  • «Embraced (Entangled) Forever and Ever» (Post By Elli At Facebook from Dimitri Liantinis - Excerpt From Gemma)

    • Martin
    • September 22, 2024 at 1:26 AM
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    Does this all have to do with Planck units?

    Yes, in particular with the Planck length.

  • The "meaning crisis" trend. How do you answer it as an Epicurean philosopher?

    • Martin
    • September 21, 2024 at 12:40 PM

    If someone wants a meaning for one's life, they are free to create it.

    I thought about meaning of life during adolescence and the subsequent years because I read and heard from others about it but never felt that need for a meaning of life, so for me personally, there is no such crisis. However, as Nietzsche anticipated, the meaning crisis might be relevant for many people.

  • «Embraced (Entangled) Forever and Ever» (Post By Elli At Facebook from Dimitri Liantinis - Excerpt From Gemma)

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    • September 21, 2024 at 5:02 AM
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    that there is a smallest unit of length

    A smallest unit of length has so far only been suggested but its existence is not proven. Epicurus did not claim the existence of a smallest unit of length either, possibly later Epicureans did that. A smallest unit of length (in terms of an exact number instead of something vague like quantum indeterminacy) would create big conceptual problems, both in Epicurus' metaphysics and in modern physics.

  • «Embraced (Entangled) Forever and Ever» (Post By Elli At Facebook from Dimitri Liantinis - Excerpt From Gemma)

    • Martin
    • September 21, 2024 at 4:53 AM

    We should read Elli's claims as analogies, and not as identical ideas to modern science. The text would be a lot more complicated and less impressive if it was formulated in every sentence as analogy. Similarly, scientists mostly refer to reality instead of models because it would make their papers even less intelligible if they would explicitly include the model character of their theories in every sentence.

  • Welcome AcuDoc

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    Welcome AcuDoc213!

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    Welcome Eric!

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    Welcome Patrick!

  • New Article Attacking Epicurean Physics: "Science Versus the Oldest Anti-Intelligent Design Argument "

    • Martin
    • September 8, 2024 at 7:04 AM

    Beetlemoses imagines how it may happen:

  • What Did the Ancient Epicureans Think Were The Upper And Lower Limits of Atomic Size?

    • Martin
    • September 6, 2024 at 1:06 PM

    The ancients were certainly aware, that a piece of solid material could be ground such that the piece becomes smaller and the removed specs would still have color if visible or they were not visible, and that water evaporated without that they could see into what. It was straight forward to infer for Epicurus that the smallest spec still visible was not an atom and that atoms were smaller than to be seen with bare eyes. Moreover, his atoms did not have color, which adds to the impossibility to see them.

  • Content Creation - Epicurean Songs and Modern Music for Outreach and Group Development

    • Martin
    • September 6, 2024 at 4:45 AM

    I would be in for Karaoke. After practicing at bit more, I hope to find a group of Karaoke fans in Bangkok, irrespective of philosophy or religion.

    Elayne found a way to enjoy earworms instead of being annoyed by them; maybe it is somewhere on this forum. If a song which I like follows me as an earworm for a day, I enjoy it, too, but not if I do not like the song.

  • Repackaged Epicureanism from a Christian writer?

    • Martin
    • September 3, 2024 at 4:48 AM
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    So...maybe time to get started on the Epicurean songbook!

    Here it is:

    Music With Epicurean Philosophical Themes - Epicureanfriends.com

  • Isaac Asimov's Essay "The Relativity of Wrong" (Including Criticism of Socrates And Considering Proper Standards of Correctness)

    • Martin
    • August 30, 2024 at 10:52 AM

    Some ideas of Epicurus are impressively compatible with, or analogous too, modern knowledge. However, from an experimental perspective, Asimov's statement that "these are all twentieth-century discoveries" is mostly correct.

  • Welcome Robert!

    • Martin
    • August 28, 2024 at 9:30 PM

    Welcome Robert!

  • How Old Was Epicurus When He Died?

    • Martin
    • August 28, 2024 at 12:58 PM

    In Asia, it is common to tell the age based on the year, irrespective of the day. This may have been common practice in Ancient Greece, too.

  • Welcome MaiTaiNye!

    • Martin
    • August 26, 2024 at 5:35 AM

    Welcome MaiTaiNye!

  • Epicurus' Rejection of Dialectic (Cicero's De Oratore)

    • Martin
    • August 15, 2024 at 12:18 PM
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    Dialectic is a thing of closed logic, of minor and major premises leading inexorably toward irrefutable conclusions.

    This seems to be nonsense and disqualifies Higgins as worth to read. Irrefutable conclusions exist only in logic but not in dialectic. The straight-forward logical description of dialectic contains contradictions of the type "A and not A". Whereas dialectic as derived from dialogue and used by Plato may sometimes be useful, the way Hegel's dialectic mimics logic is rather an unintended parody of logic and invalid.

  • Epicurean versus deceptive (“modern”) Stoic decision making

    • Martin
    • August 13, 2024 at 1:55 AM
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    Do we all agree that "to desire sth" is an "atom of experience" just like "feels warm" is, too, meaning both are indivisible and not made up of smaller, lower-level, more fine-grained units of experience?

    I agree, at least in the sense that I am not aware of a meaningful way to compose a desire of smaller units.

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