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    "Her" :)

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    Also, Bryan or Don , if you have guys have any interest, would you take a swing at translating P.Herc. 1520 ("On Philosophy") by Polystratos? My translation right now sucks. :P

    There's a lot of P.Herc. that needs English translations.

    I've connected…
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    And greetings, all!

    I've added a few other fun sections:

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    I mention in another post I'm trying to reconstruct key dates for Philódēmos here.

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    Thanks Eikadistes. I want to revamp our way of accessing and discussing the Doctrines and Sayings and I will work to incorporate those crossreferences in whatever I come up with.
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    I think this is correct Eikadistes. What I think we can see in the discussion in Tusculan Disputations is that the Stoics were asserting that the good/wise/happy man is going to have no part of evil, and therefore we cannot ever label pain as evil. …
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    Evidence is very fragmentary. I came across the figure as well in a few places:

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    Check out Theory and Practice in Epicurean Political Philosophy: Security, Justice and Tranquility by Javier Aoiz, Marcelo D. Boeri (2023).
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    Good deal! I've shared the Principle Doctrines by Makridis [1] here and the Key Doctrines by A. A. Long and Sedley [2] here. The Fundamental Articles by Wallace are [3] here, and then the Authorized Doctrines by De Witt are [4] here. Of course, I've got…
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    He's worth a look.

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    This discussion thread will serve as a crossreference to the new blog article posted by Elli.

    https://www.epicureanfriends.com/wcf/blog/entry/62/

    The blog feature of the forum has a place at the bottom of the article to allow for quick comments, but if…
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    PRINCIPAL DOCTRINE XIV – ANALYSIS & CONTEMPORARY APPLICATION

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    Yes I will make sure there are several different ways to find all the threads tagged with a particular doctrine number.
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    After the restructuring, if each discussion thread is linked on the top of its respective Wiki page then that could be a way to access the discussion.

    Otherwise I foresee that it will end up being difficult to locate any specific PD or VS, because they…
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    https://societyofepicurus.com/reasonings-on-philodemus-on-anger/

    https://www.academia.edu/resource/work/40100803

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    Much appreciated Cassius !
  • Cassius June 29, 2025 at 9:41 PM

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    Definitely the book and our podcast interview with Marcello Boeri!

    Episode 197 -LucretiusToday Interviews Dr. Marcelo Boeri
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    Welcome!
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    Just finished reading the article by Jeffrey Fish and was curious if anyone had reading suggestions concerning Epicureanism and politics?
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    Crossreference:

    Special Emphasis On "Emotions" In Lucretius Today Podcast / Tusculan Disputations - Should Everyone Aspire To Emulate Mr. Spock?
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    Beginning with Episode 288 of the Lucretius Today Podcast recorded today, for the next six weeks or longer we are going to be dealing with important issues as to emotions: Should emotions be considered to be "diseases," as Cicero explains is implied in…
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    Found it; thanks! That's so interesting that the spread of his philosophy relied on art, which is really ironic, since Epicurus's thoughts on aesthetics aren't a dominant part of his philosophy. Or at least they weren't preserved.

    I'll reciprocate with a…
  • Cassius June 28, 2025 at 5:34 PM

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    Here's our prior discussion on the Frischer book:

    Bernard Frischer's "The Sculpted Word"
  • Cassius June 28, 2025 at 5:33 PM

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    Others may have better suggestions than I do. I don't recall that we have a podcast on that, but there is book devoted to something close to that -- "The Sculpted Word" by Bernard Frischer, which discusses Epicurean use of art in portraying Epicurus.
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    Thanks, sounds like a great place to start! Any chance of a recommendation on Epicurean Philosophy of Aesthetics?
  • Cassius June 28, 2025 at 5:19 PM

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    Thanks for your response. I will talk with the other moderators about inviting you to something soon. In the meantime, I can recommend that you look into the LucretiusToday podcast here at the forum and on all podcast sources. We regularly have three to…
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    Regarding my background and exposure, I'm interested in the history of the philosophy of beauty and am doing research into Hellenistic philosophies on beauty. My introduction to Epicurus was through Tatarkiewicz's section on him in History of Aesthetics.…
  • Bryan June 28, 2025 at 2:56 PM

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    It seems our Apollodorus "the Epicurean" and the more famous Apollodorus "of Athens" are now considered two different people, but I need help figuring out why.



    They have the same dates:
    Apollodorus "of Athens" first came to Athens in 146 BC (in his early…
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    Thank you, moving Apollodorus just one down -- under Dionysus of Lamptrai -- should work for now.

    Also Leontion, an original member, should be closer to the top of the list, around Polyaenus, and just after her should be Colotes.
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