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Posts by Hiram

SUNDAY WEEKLY ZOOM - 12:30 PM EDT - Book Review: De Rerum Natura by Lucretius -- Read the post for our December 7, 2025 meeting -- or find out how to attend.

 

  • Epicureanism – Busts of Venus, Athena, Epicurus

    • Hiram
    • March 30, 2019 at 10:10 AM

    http://societyofepicurus.com/epicureanism-busts/

  • PD09 - Condensed Pleasure

    • Hiram
    • March 27, 2019 at 11:56 AM

    I think I read somewhere that the brain is the organ that consumes BY FAR the most energy, accounting for up to 20 % of total energy consumption in the body.

    Also, on agency and freedom, Sartre tackles this when he says that we are what we make of what life gives us, and in his existential literature he delves into the tension between our facticity (that which we are born with, that we have no control over and acts as gravity pulling us down) and our instinct of freedom, our process of self-creation which we do have control over.

    A Concrete Self - addresses some of these "ghost in the machine" issues, which really are inherited from a faulty, Platonized interpretation of reality. The essay reconciles a modern materialist theory of self with Epicurus' teachings in his Epistle to Herodotus according to which bodies gain complexity as they grow and gain particles, and with added complexity they generate "relational" or secondary properties beyond the conventional "atoms and void" properties--both of which are observable and real. The real, observable self emerges organically as symbiosis, as complex systems (like all else in nature), not as a Platonic "Casper" without a body.

    http://societyofepicurus.com/a-concrete-self/

  • Happy Belated 20th - And Thoughts On Suicide from An Epicurean Perspective

    • Hiram
    • March 26, 2019 at 10:52 AM

    I addressed this in a piece for The Humanist, but from the perspective of "right to die" only in cases of terminal illness

    https://thehumanist.com/magazine/may-j…rstand-epicurus

  • Thank you Cassius for your website!

    • Hiram
    • March 26, 2019 at 10:51 AM

    Welcome to the group!

  • Epicureans and the Ancient Greek Gods (Imagery of "Gods" / "Gods Among Men")

    • Hiram
    • March 26, 2019 at 10:45 AM
    Quote from Matthaeus

    Obviously an allegorical god is not the same thing as a real “atomic” god. The issue is that Epicurus himself posits that the gods are in fact real.

    Hola Mateo! While I grant your point, here you touch on something interesting. Allegorical and atomic deities are not mutually contradictory, and in your persistent concern with theology you have abandoned the utility and purpose of religious experience, which is to help us experience pure, effortless pleasure.

    When Lucretius says that all of nature opens up in spring FOR Venus, he is clearly not referring to a goddess with a physical body that dwells outside of the galaxies. He is using the religious image to induce pleasure, in-spiration.

  • PD09 - Condensed Pleasure

    • Hiram
    • March 26, 2019 at 10:23 AM

    "associated with the whole organism or the dominant parts of it" tells me that pleasure happens IN THE BODY (even mental pleasures), that (different parts of) the body have the wisdom to produce (different types of) pleasure, and that any study of the variation of pleasure must be bodily rooted.

    Also: We can't experience intense pleasure 24-7 because we have to sleep, plus ***the experience of intense pleasure requires intense energy consumption***. Take the orgasm, and consider the after-effect, the post-coital fatigue that comes from reaching the intensity of orgasm. This fatigue is indicative that a HUGE AMOUNT of energy was just consumed by the brain and the body in producing that experience. And so we conclude from observation that intense pleasures require energy, which is not unlimited.

    Because the body only has a limited supply of energy available, we conclude that nature has placed certain limits to the amount of pleasure the organism can experience.

    Also, concerning the neuroscience of pleasure, you may want to read "Buddha's Brain". I wrote a book review here:

    http://societyofepicurus.com/reasonings-about-neuroscience/

    AND concerning the impossibility of inaction, consider this:

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    Most men are insensible when they rest, and mad when they act. – Vatican Saying 11

    which (I think) means that most people need to learn or train themselves to experience pleasure both while active and passive, and that therefore Epicurean philosophy presumably is part of that curriculum.

    When we study the brain in this manner, we frequently speak as if the organism was a passive recipient or processes and there was no agency (this is probably part of what leads many like Sam Harris to conclude there is no free will--simply because they don't know how to fully account for how this agency emerges, but the fact is that it is there). It's as if you couldn't choose to take five minutes to stop, draw a deep breath, engage in a gratitude practice, and reset your attitude from time to time. Attitude regulation is a HUGE part of Epicurean practice, if we are to believe Diogenes of Oenoanda and Philodemus of Gadara, and I am convinced that without gratitude it is impossible to profit from EP.

    So the factor of how does the sentient being actively engage in the production of his or her narrative must also be considered, and not merely the processes in the brain and the body that produce pleasure.

  • Welcome Daniel!

    • Hiram
    • March 26, 2019 at 9:56 AM

    Daniel you'll like this piece:

    http://societyofepicurus.com/venus-as-spiri…dom-traditions/

  • On freedom from distress = full pleasure

    • Hiram
    • March 20, 2019 at 6:10 PM

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Epicureanism/comments/b3eqed/a_thought_on_how_freedom_from_distress_can_be_the/

  • Hygge and the Landscape of Pleasure: a Book Review

    • Hiram
    • March 15, 2019 at 10:55 AM

    http://societyofepicurus.com/hygge-and-the-…pe-of-pleasure/

  • Son has a question

    • Hiram
    • March 12, 2019 at 9:47 AM

    Feta is Greek. But you can also consume local cheese and crackers.

  • Epicureanism Vs Asceticism

    • Hiram
    • March 12, 2019 at 9:44 AM

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Epicureanism…_vs_asceticism/

  • Best Way to Introduce Teachings?

    • Hiram
    • March 8, 2019 at 1:30 PM

    I wish we had answers to all your questions. No one has done marketing research on EP, I try to see trends and have only found that reddit brings in huge traffic to the SoFE webpage and others. How much of that traffic = steady interest, it's hard to tell. It seems to me that very few people develop a sustained interest in EP.

    Pamphlets and Brochures here:

    http://societyofepicurus.com/shareable-epicurean-memes/

  • ‪Could #Epicurus save us?‬ ‪A #philosophy of #pleasure could cure our modern ills

    • Hiram
    • March 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM

    https://medium.com/@stevengambard…us-d140d6ef44f7

  • What Practical Advice Can You Give To Someone Who Wants To Implement Epicurean Principles As Quickly As Possible?

    • Hiram
    • March 4, 2019 at 4:01 PM

    Read the letter to

    Menoeceus https://theautarkist.wordpress.com/2018/05/20/hap…ics-the-ethics/

  • Venus: Conceiving The Good

    • Hiram
    • February 27, 2019 at 10:05 AM

    It's possible that the explicit worship of Aphrodite is not as strong anywhere today as it is in Brasil where she's known as Oxum (in Cuba she's Ochún, in Yorubaland, Nigeria she's Oshun). There are hospitals, temples, festivals in her honor. Here's a Candomble chant for her:

    It is said that she is the Orisha (deity) that makes life worth living, which gives her a special place obviously in the ethical philosophy of Candomble because she refreshes and "sweetens the world" with her "sweet waters" of the river (the bitter / salty waters of the ocean belong to Yemayá) … these days I'm trying to stay away from the "bitter waters" of politics and drink more of the sweet waters of Oxum.

  • Can You Suggest A Reading List For New Students of Epicurus?

    • Hiram
    • February 26, 2019 at 10:28 AM

    also ElementalEpicureanism.com

  • Can You Suggest A Reading List For New Students of Epicurus?

    • Hiram
    • February 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM

    Here's a book review for TteG:

    https://thehumanist.com/magazine/janua…picurean-garden

    and here's a Spanish language curriculum

    https://sociedadepicuro.wordpress.com/2017/03/20/iti…dios-epicureos/

  • Welcome Oscar!

    • Hiram
    • February 24, 2019 at 11:50 AM

    Welcome again Oscar

    Here’s my tip jar/patron page:

    https://www.patreon.com/hiram

    That goes to supporting the fees for societyofepicurus.com page. Also, feel free to ask for specific content if you donate. For 2019, I am trying to create awareness and encourage discussions about Epicurean economics, because I feel that this is an under-developed area that deserves more attention. My last 20th message was the first conversation starter on the subject.

  • Concerning religiosity

    • Hiram
    • February 22, 2019 at 9:36 AM
    Quote from Oscar

    Do you feel such an inclination? What are your thoughts?

    Sincerely,

    Oscar

    Welcome to the group! Here:

    Epicureanism as a Religious Identity - https://theautarkist.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/epi…gious-identity/

  • Epicureans and the Ancient Greek Gods (Imagery of "Gods" / "Gods Among Men")

    • Hiram
    • February 14, 2019 at 1:59 PM

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