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Why Epicurean ideas suit the challenges of modern secular life

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    • July 19, 2019 at 11:44 AM
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    https://aeon.co/ideas/why-epic…rn-secular-life

    "Please always remember my doctrines!" - Epicurus' last words

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    • July 19, 2019 at 3:39 PM
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    Thanks Hiram - Looks like a generally very good article that generally passes my smell test ;)

    The concluding paragraph, though, hints at what I would see as my main dissatisfaction:

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    Do you see the ‘pursuit of happiness’ as a tough research project and kick yourself when you’re glum? You’re Epicurean. We think of the Stoics as tougher, but they provided the comfort of faith. Accept your fate, they said. Epicurus said:

    It’s a mess. Be smarter than the rest of them. How modern can you get?

    The article really doesn't emphasize what is perhaps the main difference between Stoic and Epicurean - that Stoicism is essentially a theology - a religion-based view that the world is organized by a divine will and a divine order -- Why else would we be cow down to faith and fate?

    But my two cents on this one is that it's major points are more accurate than most, and it doesn't stress the "pleasure is absence of pain" formula in a nonsensical way

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    The author read my book, that's how I know of her.

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    • July 20, 2019 at 12:09 PM
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    Sounds like you were a good influence on her!

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    • July 24, 2019 at 4:45 AM
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    "The author read my book, that's how I know of her."

    What book, Hiram?

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    Tending the Epicurean Garden

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