Posts by Oscar

    With pleasure ... I'll further share a pleasant clip from down under: in which around the :40 second mark you'll hear "because it is not what we have, but what we enjoy, that brings happiness" ... resonating with the familiar words to us Epicureans;

    "Not what we have but what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance" - The Sage Epicurus

    I invite all to sing-a-long

    “Let no one be slow to seek wisdom when he is young nor weary in the search of it when he has grown old. For no age is too early or too late for the health of the soul.” - The Sage Epicurus :thumbsup:

    Hi Dubitator314,

    An appropriate Epicurean response, today, would be the scientific response; there's no evidence in nature that supports teleological arguments as the above. It only appears that they do this in order to defend the herd, but nature is mindless without direction and purposeless; in nature, as we must all learn, appearances can be deceiving.

    If you need further clarification, do let me know and I'll elaborate with pleasure.

    I'm not so enthusiastically inclined for the often politicized day celebrations and dedications, however, on the so-called international day of friendship I think Epicurus' wisdom needs to be shared - of course, to Epicureans every day is a day for friendship ;)

    “Of all the means which wisdom acquires to ensure happiness throughout the whole of life, by far the most important is friendship” - The Sage Epicurus

    For me, true friends are friends forever - those who have passed remain in our memory and have a continued influence and warmth in our lives. To friends past, present and future!

    I'll sign off by sharing an appropriate song from my recent playlist: Forever by Gesaffelstein ft. The Hacker & Electric Youth



    I consume a lot of audio, and am really feeling deeply the absence of a good podcast dedicated to Epicurean philosophy. I understand that maybe Oscar is working on something?

    Mate, you've got a golden voice to roll your thoughts on your listeners. I encourage you to give it a good go. It's the 21st century and we're a truly connected world - there's never been a better time, so just giv'r ;)

    There's a lot above Cassius so I will have to delay a more full response and you'll have to forgive me for limiting myself now to a short comment:

    I feel EP is actually a religion for free individuals only, whereas humanism as a philosophy has the pattern of trajectory to political organization and movements, perhaps humanists may wish to enlist Epicureans for their ends in the future - watch out.

    The main thought I have, may sound paradoxical lol. EP is not political, it is humanistic. Humanism, the modern form of it, is political and a mishmash.

    I've written the outline for a full response which I'll publish on my personal blog horses2water: think before you drink

    Hi JJElbert,

    As I'm sure to countless others, HDT is a personal hero of mine. I work and study in the fourth largest city in North America, behind Mexico City, NYC, LA and ahead of Chicago. The light pollution is bad, however, we are blessed with natural areas and parks. The provincial license plate motto for Ontario "Yours to Discover" really puts the story of human natural discovery into the fore mind by way of rear bumper lol 8o

    I'll just say that light is so important for the mind, body and soul. I wrote an article about the expansion of one of my university's libraries. It's the second article...…-briefs-week-of-march-25/

    I think, beyond human structures of light, natural spaces are just as important to explore. So go, get out and enjoy to your delight and pleasure.



    Not to be forgotten:

    It is impossible to live a pleasant life without living wisely and honorably and justly, and it is impossible to live wisely and honorably and justly without living pleasantly. Whenever any one of these is lacking, when, for instance, the man is not able to live wisely, though he lives honorably and justly, it is impossible for him to live a pleasant life. - Epicurus & EP

    If anyone, from the humanist perspective, reads that ... you can see how they would then make such an interpretation as the example you've given above.



    As to Oscar's comment on Liantinis, however, I am not aware of a basis for saying that "Liantinis professed hatred and disdain for humanity..."

    Oscar, do you have a cite for that?

    Pending that further discussion, as I see it in and of itself saying that someone has a hatred for the human race is not particularly novel. Tacitus said it about the Christians (which I understand might have been meant to include Jews as well since I gather the Romans considered them largely the same).

    Cassius , there exist numerous examples littering the Epicurean Friends forum, for starters just refer to the quote of Liantinis (posted by Elli) in the cultural conflict thread in which Liantinis recommends treating those with a belief in the after-life as baboons. Additionally, as Matt, rightly, pointed out that Liantinis killed himself in order to protest and emphasize his disdain through a symbolic and final personal act of murdering himself...I interpret that as hatred and disdain against his individual humanity and our collective humanity. Epicurus would certainly not have approved of Liantinis and would've rightly labeled Liantinis a fool.

    Matthaeus the ethnic nationalism and anti-semitism in here is stomach sickening...

    Cassius, I wish you luck with Epicurean Friends, I'm an Epicurean but ethnic-nationalists and anti-semites are not friends of mine - and witnessing here the thoughtless copy/paste approach by a moderator and dramatic use of fonts and regurgitation of seemingly prepared counter-responses drown out dialogue. Such immature and mindless behaviour has unfortunately, greatly, undermined your project of Epicurean Friends.


    Warning: disturbing content

    When possible, as a consumer/investor, I would like to make informed purchases and investments so as to not contribute to the harm and therefore be connected to the problem. Today, I read that Brunei legislated stoning as punishment for the so-called crimes that are people's sexual orientation and adultery. I don't understand how those are punishable or even considered crimes. I don't know how our governments even get away with having any affairs with the governments that commit such crimes against humanity. Now, I can't change the government but I can vote with my dollars, and unlike voting every four years, with my dollars I get the chance to vote everyday. So if I could know the products that are from such countries or companies that engage in such activities then I can steer clear of them and make better informed purchases/investments.

    The Canadian government, despite being so-called liberal, has sold billions of dollars of weapons to the Saudi regime. I wish the Canadian government has ethical guidelines in line with the UN declaration of Human Rights. For example, the Norwegian Sovereign State Fund has an ethical council to prevent against investment in companies that abuse human rights. I only wish the Canadian government thought to do the same.

    I'm not perfect and my ignorance or failure to research companies is one aspect that I'd like to improve. When buying products I'd like to know where they came from. Hiram you mentioned you're focusing on Epicurean Economics this year, have you looked into marketplace information on the ethical background of companies? When making purchases, I'd like to know I'm not involved in transactions that have the negative side-effect of harming others or enriching/empowering those who would harm others. There's fair-trade, sustainably harvested goods, but what about ensuring products produced/made by those who are ethically consistent with the UN declaration of human rights? In an age of information technology, why can't we expect or demand as individuals to have guidelines/info for better informed purchasing/investment decisions.…ay-sex-adultery-1.5082433…ns_and_potential_outcomes

    In agreeing with these last two posts, one point that strikes home to me is that there clearly are certain types of depression which are clinical/biological/genetic or whatever other "medical problem" term would be appropriate. And in those situations while a philosophy might be of some minor help, the ultimate problem is medical and has to be addressed medically.

    Interestingly, there's a conference in Toronto making news. Also revealed was that Canada is now the leader in the medical research of pain - . Here are a few links. What a timely coincidence ;)

    I've read through DRN in different translations - book V gripped me the strongest which was also my primary research focus - there's debate, that I'm sure you're well aware of, surrounding the completeness of the poem because Lucretius indicated he'll later give greater detail as for the nature of the gods, but this failed to materialize. I've also tried to appreciate it in its Latin for its poetic value. I'm going to be cycling back to it shortly, for a cover-to-cover re-reading.

    Depressive anhedonia is an anti-thetical force which blocks Epicurean pleasures

    Yes, from my understanding anhedonia is one of the worst things an individual can suffer from. The biological basis underlying anhedonia is something our society still isn't aware of and the sustained ignorance is one reason why there's still so much stigma about depression/mental health. Recently, a TA who I deeply respect and admire died by suicide after his battle with depression. I had no idea someone like him could even be depressed. He was an overachiever and the tragic part is he was also successful at hiding his suffering. Unfortunately, access to help is not all that accessible.