AxA We have some posts on ancient Greek/Roman food here:
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Here is more on the tri-fold - page 2 - still a work in progress (when I get the final copy done I post as a PDF, and delete the drafts.
Thinking that I want to add footnotes to specific text references.
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Kalosyni, your brochure looks great. I like the garden motifs like with the vines. I want to collect imagery like this, make a collection of anything that brings out that Epicurean Garden feeling.
Thanks, I am using the free version of the Canva app, which has various clip art and graphics.
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the date for the founding of the garden should be 307/306 BCE
Thanks Bryan I will change that, and also hope to finish the back side of the tri-fold soon.
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Here is a work in progress (I started working on a zine size some time ago, but tri-fold now seems better)...
*Edit note: Kepos founding date is 307/306 BCE - to be corrected in next draft.
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Regarding the heading in AxA's pamplet: "Trust your senses over your thoughts" - this phrase is not found in anything that Epicurus said.
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AxA I'm mulling over some parts of your pamplet, which is generally good, yet probably I would phrase some of the subtitles differently (personal preference).
Some thoughts regarding VS04 translation, which can vary depending on the translator...especially the phrase "easy to disregard"... Don maybe you can help to check what the ancient Greek words are in this??? ...ancient Greek over at monadnock.net
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This is a long thread, and perhaps needs some sifting through, but elements could be added regarding coping skills:
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This is a long thread, and perhaps needs some sifting through, but elements could be added regarding coping skills:
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Happy Birthday to forum member SillyApe
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Thank you Eikadistes for your heartfelt post of your personal experiences. And sounds like it is pointing to a need to develop coping skills before hardship or difficult times occur - such as you wrote in your first paragraph about memorizing the Doxai (Principal Doctrines)...and also having an "Epicurean Serenity Prayer" (...I think I remember some posts on that a long time ago, will see if I can find them).
And so this is something to add to the above list in post number one.
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Thank you Eikadistes for your heartfelt post of your personal experiences. And sounds like it is pointing to a need to develop coping skills before hardship or difficult times occur - such as you wrote in your first paragraph about memorizing the Doxai (Principal Doctrines)...and also having an "Epicurean Serenity Prayer" (...I think I remember some posts on that a long time ago, will see if I can find them).
And so this is something to add to the above list in post number one.
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Welcome to the forum Carlos
We have this sub-forum which you can check out (if you haven't already seen it):
And this thread also:
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Some personal thoughts regarding the purpose of the study of Epicurean philosophy.
The purpose of studying Epicurean philosophy here on the forum is intellectual growth and personal development.
Epicurean intellectual growth is multifaceted:
- development of reading and comprehension skills
- knowledge, memory and synthesis
Epicurean personal development is multifaceted:
Understanding the nature of anxiety toward death, as well as anxiety toward unknown potential events of the future (war, government instability, pandemics, etc), and working with these anxieties to find clarity and peace. Understanding the nature of the soul and the nature of death - we no longer exist after death.
(*Edit note - development of coping skills: "Epicurean serenity prayer" and memorization of key Principal Doctrines/Vatican Sayings - added on Feb. 18, 2025)
- Dropping old habits of superstitious thinking (understanding some things by necessity, some by chance, and some by our own control) and when we do not have enough evidence we wait to draw any conclusions.
- Letting go of and recovering from past "religious-abuse" and disturbed religious systems of thought, and fully experiencing Nature and the natural world.
- Remembering that there is only a set amount of time to live, which may end sooner than we think, and therefore ignoring the siren call of over-consumption and all the distractions of the crazy rat race and getting down to the task of fully living with pleasure.
- Understanding personal responsibility and implementing good choices which will lead to the health of the body and happiness of the soul.
- Developing friendship skills and lifelong friendships.
- Helping others with all of these personal development issues through sharing information and discussion
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If anyone thinks of anything else to add, please post
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Some personal thoughts regarding the purpose of the study of Epicurean philosophy.
The purpose of studying Epicurean philosophy here on the forum is intellectual growth and personal development.
Epicurean intellectual growth is multifaceted:
- development of reading and comprehension skills
- knowledge, memory and synthesis
Epicurean personal development is multifaceted:
Understanding the nature of anxiety toward death, as well as anxiety toward unknown potential events of the future (war, government instability, pandemics, etc), and working with these anxieties to find clarity and peace. Understanding the nature of the soul and the nature of death - we no longer exist after death.
(*Edit note - development of coping skills: "Epicurean serenity prayer" and memorization of key Principal Doctrines/Vatican Sayings - added on Feb. 18, 2025)
- Dropping old habits of superstitious thinking (understanding some things by necessity, some by chance, and some by our own control) and when we do not have enough evidence we wait to draw any conclusions.
- Letting go of and recovering from past "religious-abuse" and disturbed religious systems of thought, and fully experiencing Nature and the natural world.
- Remembering that there is only a set amount of time to live, which may end sooner than we think, and therefore ignoring the siren call of over-consumption and all the distractions of the crazy rat race and getting down to the task of fully living with pleasure.
- Understanding personal responsibility and implementing good choices which will lead to the health of the body and happiness of the soul.
- Developing friendship skills and lifelong friendships.
- Helping others with all of these personal development issues through sharing information and discussion
*****
If anyone thinks of anything else to add, please post
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This functions as an an outline / list -- on ethics, and wanted to reference it (still a work in progress):
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This is a good article, just in time for Valentine's Day:
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Just for fun...
Quote"When the girl returned, some hours later, she carried a tray, with a cup of fragrant tea steaming on it; and a plate piled up with very hot buttered toast, cut thick, very brown on both sides, with the butter running through the holes in it in great golden drops, like honey from the honeycomb. The smell of that buttered toast simply talked to Toad, and with no uncertain voice; talked of warm kitchens, of breakfasts on bright frosty mornings, of cosy parlour firesides on winter evenings, when one’s ramble was over and slippered feet were propped on the fender, of the purring of contented cats, and the twitter of sleepy canaries.”
– Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the WillowsSource: Food Quotes
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As I was listening to an audio recording of "Thomas Jefferson and His Time" by Dumas Malone, it mentioned Lord Bolingbroke, and that Jefferson had written this into his notebook:
"No hypothesis ought to be maintained if a single phenomenon stands in direct opposition to it."
Henry St John, 1st Viscount Bolingbroke - Wikipediaen.m.wikipedia.org
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