It seems the phrase in question comes right before the talk about establishment of a school. In the Greek, this is that sentence right before the school one:

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καὶ ἐπιχαρήσεσθαί τινι ἐπὶ τῷ διορθώματι

So, we can try to dissect it and see what we come up with. Here we go...

καὶ = just and conjunction: "and, also, etc"
ἐπιχαρήσεσθαί http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=e%29pixarh%2Fsesqai%2F&la=greek&can=e%29pixarh%2Fsesqai%2F0&prior=kai\&d=Perseus:text:1999.01.0257:book=10:chapter=1&i=1#lexicon

Ah! So, that's where the ambiguity is coming in! The definition LSJ gives is "rejoice over, exult over, mostly of malignant joy" but also "rarely in good sense, to rejoice in another's joy". The first sense is followed by the dative case, the latter by the accusative. The word used here is in the future infinitive middle. The middle "tense" always points back to the individual so I could see this meaning "will take joy in one's own misfortune." Maybe.
τινι "to anyone/anything" (dative)
ἐπὶ τῷ διορθώματι "for a means of correction, or setting right." http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=diorqw%2Fmati&la=greek&can=diorqw%2Fmati0&prior=tw=|&d=Perseus:text:1999.01.0257:book=10:chapter=1&i=1#lexicon

As y'all know, my ancient Greek is rudimentary, but I could see this line meaning that the wise one rejoices in their own misfortunes because they can use it as a means of correction for themselves. If they mess up, it's seen as an opportunity for correction. I would need to see more translations but I think that's at least plausible looking at the Greek.

Yeah, that's not how Hicks at Perseus translates that section:

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And he will make money, but only by his wisdom, if he should be in poverty, and he will pay court to a king, if need be. He will be grateful to anyone when he is corrected. He will found a school, but not in such a manner as to draw the crowd after him

Where is this? I don't see that in my version that I did: https://sites.google.com/view/epicureansage

There's a section in Lucretius where he talks about being on hill and seeing a shipwreck and being grateful for not being involved in the catastrophe. Or something like that. But I don't remember this in the "wise man" sayings.

I see this in the Perseus edition online: "He will be grateful to anyone when he is corrected." DL X.120. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?do…0%3Achapter%3D1

Thoroughly enjoyable, gentlemen! Nice work!

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However I am coming around to the view that people may be using phone-size screens 90+ percent of the time, so I think it makes sense to fine-tune for the phone screens rather than for the desktop, and in this case the difference is minor. Thanks for the suggestion!

You are welcome.

Does your platform provide any usage statistics for you along those lines? That would be an interesting thing to know. I know I personally use the mobile version the vast majority of the time.

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Done!

EDIT - And done as to the "New Users" page as well.

Oh, yes. I do like that better!

One last request, after living with your redesign for a little while: Could you switch the Epicurus portrait and Podcast logo sides? That way the figures would each be facing *into* the page rather than facing off the page. Nitpicky, I realize, but it metaphorically "invites" people into the page rather than directing outward.

I'ma gonna plan to get this through interlibrary loan. Your library wins this round, Titus

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Now I realize not everyone agrees with me on this last point, but this is also why I much prefer the translation "events" as the best way to translate the Latin "eventum" in Lucretius rather than "accidents." The 1743 edition uses "events," but many others use "accidents" - in my view influenced by the idea of the swerve and by the deduction they draw from Epicurean philosophy that everything is "accidental."

I see your point, but that "accident" doesn't mean "accident" like a car wreck. But that's what people think of with that word now.

Eventum is from evenio: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?do…Aentry%3Devenio and just means an occurrence or what arises from circumstances, or as the dictionary says in Lucretius:

2. In Lucr. opp. conjunctum, of the external conditions, or accidents, of persons and things (as poverty, riches, freedom, etc.), Lucr. 1, 450; 458; 467; 470 al.—

Dat zijn lastige vragen! Ik spreek geen Nederlands. Ik zal ook Google translate gebruiken. Vrienden willen soms klagen. Ze willen gehoord worden. Ze willen misschien geen oplossingen. Wees je bewust van de situatie. Als ze advies willen, kun je direct zijn. Epicurus moedigde openhartige spraak of "parrhesia" aan. Wij zijn verantwoordelijk voor ons leven. Ons leven is het resultaat van wat we kiezen en wat we afwijzen. We kunnen onze huidige acties en onze toekomstige acties kiezen. We herinneren ons plezier uit het verleden. We kijken naar de resultaten van toekomstige acties. We kiezen. Er is geen goddelijk regelboek. Er is geen god die onze actie leidt. Er is geen ultieme betekenis. We maken onze eigen betekenis. Als je vrienden advies willen, help ze dan goede beslissingen te nemen voor de toekomst. Luister naar ze. Wees een goede vriend.

[Those are difficult questions! I don't speak Dutch. I will also use Google translate.

Friends sometimes want to complain. They want to be heard. They may not want solutions. Be aware of the situation.

If they want advice, you can be direct. Epicurus encouraged frank speech or "parrhesia".

We are responsible for our lives. Our lives result from what we choose and what we reject. We can choose our present actions and our future actions. We remember past pleasure. We look at the results of future action. We choose. There is no divine rulebook. There is no god directing our action. There is no ultimate meaning. We make our own meaning.

If your friends want advice, help them make good decisions for the future. Listen to them. Be a good friend.]

Blue is also a complementary color for the tones used in Epicurus's face: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complemen…22.?wprov=sfla1

And note, complementary not complimentary We're not saying, "Lookin' good, Epicurus!" just commenting on the colors. Sorry, had to throw that in.

First, your mother painted it out of love so I would suggest not messing with the color.

Two, it actually seems to have a swirling atoms and void vibe to the blue. I like it.

Plus that color sets off nicely from the color used on Epicurus.

Nice work!

Can't decide if this rises to the level of a "dad joke" or just as very clever pun on Lucretius's part, but just saw this online:

In De Rerum Natura, I.24, there's the line:

te sociam studeo scribendis versibus esse,

where Lucretius asks Venus to be a sociam in his writing of the poem.

A socius is a helper, an ally, etc.

What is the Greek translation of this Latin word?

επίκουρος!! (Epicurus!)

I refuse to think that's just a coincidence. Well played, Lucretius!

See also https://www.jstor.org/stable/270533

In honor of The 20th falling on Father's Day, here's an Epicurean-flavored "dad joke"....

Why can't you trust an atom?

Because they make up everything.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A50012.…1;view=fulltext

Wasn't sure if there was a link to this text anywhere yet.

The divine Epicurus, or, The empire of pleasure over the vertues compos'd by A. LeGrand ; and rendred into English by Edward Cooke.Le Grand, Antoine, d. 1699., Cooke, Edward, fl. 1678

Check out the Deipnosophistae references to Epicurus:

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/searchr…%3A2013.01.0003

Be sure to click the "More" in the bar above the citation.

It also looks like they're referring to Epicurus's work Symposium.

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Deipnosophistae

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?do…ipnosofisth%2Fs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deipnosophistae?wprov=sfla1

Might be helpful:

https://philarchive.org/rec/BROEAS-9

Epicureans and Stoics on Universals

Ada Bronowski
In Riccardo Chiaradonna Gabriele Galluzzo (ed.), Universals in Ancient Philosophy. Edizioni della Normale. pp. 255-297 (2013)

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Right and I think that is exactly what was intended, without the "luck" connotation that is present in English.

Ha if you get us further off track we'll just split this part out

I'll behave myself

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I should note that this is a passage where I think the translation of eventum as "accidents" would be much better as "events," but that's another argument.

I realize you didn't want to get into this, but it looks like eventum is an issue, consequence, result, effect. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l…nio&i=1#lexicon