The associations are intended to be allusive -- not direct.
This also is not compatible with Epicurean philosophy
If that is true, neither are the allusions in Lucretius. (And poetry itself is at best problematic, including Lucretius -- and Philodemus on poetry.)
If you wish to remove this thread, I will not object. But I will keep to my New Year's resolution (intention), and not argue further.
I wish you all wellness, and nothing less.