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We addressed it much earlier in the podcast series.

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I'm wondering if Martin is able to determine where the 44 comes from in the German translation.

This is in reply to Don's comment #19.

The German translation referenced in #18 has 44 numbered Principal Doctrines.

It claims to be the first translation of Diogenes Laertius' "History of Philosophy" directly from Greek to German and acknowledges older indirect translations from tranlations into other languages.

While browsing through the foreword, I did not find anything on the numbering but the following noteworthy statements to quote:

P. VI (12) "Wir vergessen oft das Jahr, wo wir uns trauen liessen, ...":

"We often forget the year in which we got married, ..."

(in the context of the difficulty of correctly establishing the ancient chronolgy).

P. X (16) "Denn der griechische Text des Laertios ist voll Unrichtigkeiten, und daher sehr oft nicht nur dunkel, sondern beinahe unverstaendlich, und unerklaerbar; dies gilt vorzueglich von dem Lehrsystem des Platon, der Stoiker, von dem ganzen dogmatischen Theile des zehnten Buches, wo beinahe nicht mehr fortzukommen war, und wo ich also oft vielmehr den Oedipus als den Uebersetzer machen musste.":

"For the Greek text of Laertius is full of mistakes and therefore very often not only obscure but almost incomprehensible; this is particularly true of the doctrinal system of Plato, the Stoics, of the whole dogmatic part of the tenth book, where it was almost impossible to get any further, and where I therefore often had to do Oedipus rather than the translator."

(I am not sure what doing Oedipus means here and wonder whether the translator rather meant Sisyphus.)

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It seems there are worlds between religious education in America/Ireland and Germany.

In Germany, religious education is a mandatory part of education in state schools, includes church service on one school day morning per week, and is usually done separately for Catholics and Protestants, whereby Protestants are usually lumped together in one curriculum irrespective of their variants. More recently, religious education for Muslims, too, has been added in public schools. Parents can opt their kids out of the mandatory religious education, and from age 14 onward, kids can opt out on their own. However, that opting out was rare during my time at school.

This background would suggest that indoctrination is particularly severe in Germany but actually it is not, at least not in Cologne, which is predominantly Catholic, and nearby urban areas. Culture in Cologne is traditionally oriented toward pleasure. Carnival season lasts about 5 months, and many activists prepare for the next season during the remaining part of the year. Popular pubs are full throughout the year. Pleasure is in people's mind all the time.

A fear-mongering religion would be ridiculous in Cologne. Therefore, religious education was made interesting and partly even fun. As a consequence, I was confident to go to heaven as a faithful kid with good grades in Catholic education and did not fear Hell. Under the influence of my protestant father, who detested the Catholic church, I stopped attending Mass on Sundays and distanced myself from the church and the bogus concept of sins early but not yet from belief in the Abrahamic god and did not even know of the possibility of atheism until religious education discussed atheist publications in my 11th year at school. Against the intention of the curriculum, I found the arguments of the teacher against Marx and Freud not convincing and turned agnostic with 3 years of struggle in the transition. I stayed with Catholic ethics as a default because I did not find a new set of explicit ethics for several decades but ditched any part of Catholic ethics which did not make sense to me or appeared to be politically conservative mind control. Therefore, getting rid of Catholic programming of my subconscience was easy.

It was much more difficult to get rid of idealism. Whereas I am rather calm by nature, deviations from the ideal/optimum could trigger fits of anger both at work and in private. After 20 years of struggle, I got rid of that, too.

Recognizing Epicurus' philosophy as similar to my philosophy of life in 2016 and studying where it goes beyond what I had figured out on my own before has rooted out the last remains of that idealism of my past.

So far, my biggest change from exposure to Epicurus has been increased confidence in my choices.

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Welcome Joe!

"Garçon" is nonsense taught in obsolete French lessons.

Decades ago, this word was already considered as impolite to call a waiter in France.

This is only about classified operations and the political struggle around partial disclosures. No evidence regarding alien systems and materials is provided. So, no, it is like the usual story but without any evidence.

The oldest references to the wheel as an execution tool go back to late antiquity in Germany.

I found no mentioning of execution or torture with the wheel by ancient Romans and Greeks.

Therefore, Theophrastus most likely means something else with scaffold and wheel.

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I choose actions and avoidances such that my experience and scientific knowledge predict a high likelihood of sustainable maxed out pleasure which is worth the pain in preparations and consequences.

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I posted translated quotes from the reference in Comment #35 at:

Quotes from Karl Krohn's dissertation "Der Epikureer Hermarchos" - Hermarchus - Epicureanfriends.com

The text was downloaded from:

I corrected numerous failures of the OCR where they were obvious. Some breaks in the text indicate that a bit of the content may have been lost in the generation of the electronic document. The dissertation appears to be short by today's customs.

Although parts of Karl Krohn's work have probably become obsolete because of later findings, I listed everything which appeared interesting for our forum or myself. I can add surrounding text of some quotes upon request.

Accents above Greek letters are lost in my quotes. I rendered lower German quotation marks as upper ones.

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Are you located in Thailand?

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Your views seem to match ours already very well. Sorry that I found no detail to apply frank criticism to.

Blender is good for people who draft free hand for 3D modeling. I prefer numerical (or even better parametric) input and found no simple way to do that in Blender except by manually editing every datapoint, which is too tedious. Most of the free samples for Blender lack resolution, probably because free hand with high resolution is extremely tedious.