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Don
May 15, 2024 at 8:05 AM Posted the thread Creation Out of Nothing is Postbiblical Doctrine.ThreadDan McClellan does a good quick intro to the mistaken idea of a god creating the universe ex nihilo...
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Cassius
May 15, 2024 at 4:18 AM Replied to the thread Happy Birthday General Thread.PostHappy Birthday to GilbertoMoncada! Learn more about GilbertoMoncada and say happy birthday on GilbertoMoncada's timeline: GilbertoMoncada -
Martin
May 15, 2024 at 2:26 AM Replied to the thread What Determines That Which Is Possible And That Which is Impossible?.Post[…]
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Don
PostMay 14, 2024 at 6:58 PM 123f. ἐναργὴς γαρ αὐτῶν ἐστιν ἡ γνῶσις.- Here's our δέ "on the other hand."
- ἐναργὴς [δέ] ἐστιν αὐτῶν ἡ γνῶσις
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Bryan
PostMay 14, 2024 at 6:51 PM […]
The "eyes of the mind" seems to correspond to criterion #4: "the image-based focus of the mind."
D.L. 10.31: Therefore, in The Canon, Epicurus affirms that the criteria of truth are [1] the sensations and [2] the preconceptions and [3] the feelings,… -
Twentier
May 14, 2024 at 5:21 PM Uploaded the image Make Epicurus Great Again.Image/Video -
Kalosyni
May 14, 2024 at 2:20 PM Replied to the thread What Determines That Which Is Possible And That Which is Impossible?.PostSo would modern science include 1, 2, and 4 from Bryan's list in post 15?
If you want to give your mind some direct interaction with regard to the consideration of what is possible and what is impossible, try watching a "sci-fi/fantasy" movie.
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Cassius
May 14, 2024 at 1:16 PM Replied to the thread Wednesday Night Zoom - Focusing On Usener's Epicurea.PostTomorrow night's Wednesday Zoom will have this agenda:- Wed, 05/15/2024
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Cassius
May 14, 2024 at 11:02 AM Posted the thread Welcome GreenTea!.ThreadWelcome GreenTea !
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Bryan
May 13, 2024 at 6:12 PM Replied to the thread What Determines That Which Is Possible And That Which is Impossible?.PostI'll throw the full quote in here as well:
D.L. 10.31: Therefore, in The Canon, Epicurus affirms that the criteria of truth are [1] the sensations and [2] the preconceptions and [3] the feelings, and the Epicureans (also affirm) [4] the image-based focus… -
TauPhi
PostMay 13, 2024 at 5:30 PM […]
You don't need to rely on intuition in this case. Epicurus deviated from Democritean physics by limiting the variety of atoms. By doing this he automatically put a stop to 'anything goes' universe.
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I disagree. We should think about everything we are… -
Cassius
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Twentier
May 13, 2024 at 4:28 PM Replied to the thread What Determines That Which Is Possible And That Which is Impossible?.Post[…]
As Epicurus wrote, THΣ AΛHΘEIAΣ EINAI TAΣ AIΣΘHΣEIΣ, "the truth is the sensations..." the foundation of knowledge. Whatever is left must be coherent with documented observations. Anything else leaves us without a point of reference to test… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 4:14 PM […]
So what IS this guy's point? Is he arguing for intelligent design? A quick scan of the website "about" section does not make clear the site's orientation.
OK I guess the site does contain clues:
This link originally came up through a Google search, so… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 4:08 PM […]
I think that is an excellent point and it is where I (intuitively) think Epicurus is coming from.
In addition, we have no reason to think, and therefore we should not think, that there are "other universes" in which there are an infinitely larger… -
Kalosyni
May 13, 2024 at 3:46 PM Uploaded the image Choose wisely, savor, enjoy your friends.Image/Video -
TauPhi
May 13, 2024 at 3:45 PM Replied to the thread Reference Material For The Wednesday Night Epicurea Zooms.PostThank you Bryan -
TauPhi
PostMay 13, 2024 at 3:42 PM My initial thoughts. I didn't spend any time validating them so feel free to correct me as I probably got some of the stuff wrong.
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The example with the monkeys doesn't illustrate the claim preceding the example. In our universe we don't have infinity… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 3:02 PM One of the sections of the letter to Herodotus that has always seemed to me of closest relevance to issues like this is the following (Bailey translation). I've highlighted a couple of phrases that seem particularly of note.
[74] And further we must… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:47 PM Ok Joshua and others, we now have an intersection of two discussions: (1) On the Nature of the Gods, and (2) The Monkey Typewriter Theorem! We'll work to answer this by next Sunday!
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Cassius
ThreadMay 13, 2024 at 2:46 PM Welcome
to Episode 229 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:40 PM […]
Since we're setting up all sorts of good questions to ask, I am not sure that I would intuitively agree with this either. The whole idea that the universe consists of "truly random" events seems to me to be very questionable, and that the better… -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:35 PM ....And after reading those articles I am as confused as ever! It appears that the assumptions involved in the words setting up the sentence are going to determine the "answer." -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:17 PM Here's one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_…popular_culture
More to the point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem -
Cassius
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:16 PM Ok that's a great way at getting at the question. If I need to revise the statement then I certainly will -- have you seen a discussion of this issue that explains the background? -
Martin
PostMay 13, 2024 at 2:05 PM […]
It would infinite times because the number of letters on a typewriter is finite and the number of letters in Shakespeare's works is finite!
The formation of life on Earth had similar odds. -
Cassius
ThreadMay 13, 2024 at 1:55 PM My first reaction to this new article is that the view ascribed to Epicurus ("Since the universe is infinite, there are enough opportunities for every possible arrangement of atoms to occur eventually, even the most unlikely. Our world, and the life on… -
Don
May 13, 2024 at 1:27 PM Replied to the thread What Determines That Which Is Possible And That Which is Impossible?.PostHere's my take on that word "dogmatize" in relation to the Epicureans:
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Bryan
May 13, 2024 at 12:22 PM Replied to the thread Reference Material For The Wednesday Night Epicurea Zooms.PostHello all! Updated version is attached. I also included a "lined" version, in which I have endeavored to underline the same words in the original and translation. -
Cassius
May 13, 2024 at 10:43 AM Replied to the thread Opening of SETI / Space Exploration Forum.PostI'm now getting concerned that Don won't live long enough to see the Moon and/or Mars colonized, so I better keep up my posts in this forum so that we keep track of the technology and coax it along!
https://hackaday.com/2024/05/13/you…rship-to-orbit/