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Godfrey
May 8, 2026 at 11:26 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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Well said, and, as always, thanks for creating this corner of the Internet in the first place, Cassius -
Eikadistes
Reaction (Post)May 8, 2026 at 10:22 PM Thanks to Godfrey for this info about the translator of a popular edition of Lucretius:
This showed up in my inbox:
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Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:42 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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Well said, and, as always, thanks for creating this corner of the Internet in the first place, Cassius -
Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:42 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Cassius’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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No - I'm glad you posted. if you were thinking it it's likely others are too, so always feel free to speak up.
This goes along with Dave's question. Aside from those of us who are really into the topic there's always a general level of background… -
Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:38 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Eikadistes’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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No doubt. Kant is typically represented as the prototype of a deontologist. Kant famously argued that stealing bread is categorically unethical, even if it's to feed a starving child. -
Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:38 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:38 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Eikadistes’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
So long as we understand we're trying to map ancient thinkers using contemporary terminology, I'm comfortable saying that Epíkouros firmly fits within the category of consequentialism. Most philosophers we view as virtue ethicists and deontologists are… -
Bryan
May 8, 2026 at 8:37 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Cassius’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
I personally think this needs to be hammered home:
To me this conversation is sort of like discussing Epicurus as a "hedonist." Yes I understand that that term has a technical meaning in which pleasure is the key. However in common discussion the term is… -
wbernys
Reaction (Post)May 8, 2026 at 8:18 PM […]
Well said. THAT for me is the most basic fundamental doctrine in Epicurus' physics. That's the foundation stone upon which fear of the gods and anxiety of punishment after death are dispelled. THAT'S the non-negotiable point for me. Epicurus fleshes… -
Cassius
May 8, 2026 at 7:56 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Should Epicurus be viewed as a pure consequentialist, virtue ethicist, or both?.
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Well said, and, as always, thanks for creating this corner of the Internet in the first place, Cassius
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