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Kalosyni
February 28, 2026 at 3:53 PM Replied to the thread Sunday March 1, 2026 - Zoom Meeting - Lucretius Book Review - Starting Book One Line 184.PostCassius From the side-by-side, third column...It looks like these perhaps could be covered as one group?
Part 8 - The proof that nothing comes from nothing is to look around and see that all things are not born of all things, but from fixed seeds.… -
Matteng
February 28, 2026 at 2:16 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Kalosyni’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".Here is a diagram that I just made which has the telos at the top and then "climbs down the ladder of abstraction"...and it is still a work in progress ... open to thoughts and suggestions.
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Matteng
February 28, 2026 at 2:15 PM Reacted withReaction (Post) to Cassius’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".The part you have quoted there Kalosyni will be read by some people be circular or worse. It does not specifically identify what "happiness" is apart from pleasure. Further, in equating happiness to "katastematic pleasure" in that last sentence, the… -
Don
February 28, 2026 at 1:29 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)
to Joshua’s post in the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".I agree with Cassius on pleasure, but I do want to add something relevant to joy. This comes from Julien Offray de la Mettrie's Anti-Seneca; many here will recognize this from Charles 's work on the French materialists.
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Cassius
ThreadFebruary 28, 2026 at 1:08 PM We'll start this week at line 184 and continue from there1-184
Nay more, there would be no need for lapse of time for the increase of things upon the meeting of the seed, if they could grow from nothing. For little children would grow suddenly to youths,… -
Cassius
ThreadFebruary 28, 2026 at 1:02 PM Welcome to Episode 323 of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the most complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. Each week we walk you through the… -
Kalosyni
February 28, 2026 at 12:21 PM Replied to the thread "Choice" and "Avoidance".Post[…]
It is a skill set that we learn over time, and get better at through continued practice. -
DaveT
February 28, 2026 at 10:47 AM Replied to the thread "Choice" and "Avoidance".Post[…]
Yes in many ways this is true and vital for each of us. Yet, I'm thinking about how Epicurus thought we ought to navigate within our ordinary daily habits and small choices. I think they are barely noticeable to us as we go about the day.… -
Martin
Reaction (Post)February 28, 2026 at 3:12 AM I have been remiss in offering gratitude for this. We have kept busy in learning hedonic calculus and balance even in the midst of a busy time of recovery from sickness and semester exams. He and I have read this post often and pondered it often. He… -
Kalosyni
February 27, 2026 at 8:10 PM Replied to the thread Neither "ataraxia" nor "not ataraxia", but "Joy as the goal".PostHere is a diagram that I just made which has the telos at the top and then "climbs down the ladder of abstraction"...and it is still a work in progress ... open to thoughts and suggestions.
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