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Don
PostDecember 4, 2025 at 8:09 PM I would go further in saying the "experience machine" hypothetical in all its forms is NOT about choosing pleasure over pain/reality, it's about choosing reality for the promise of a blissful alternative existence. The person/entity offering the… -
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PostDecember 4, 2025 at 7:44 PM […]
Right. I generally see the experience machine hypothetical as geared toward the normal ordinary person to test their views of pleasure. This set of facts focuses more on someone who is in a very difficult situation with no realistic hope of… -
Cassius
December 4, 2025 at 7:41 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Hypotheticals: Would An Epicurean Hook Himself Up To An "Experience Machine" or a "Pleasure Machine"?.
There's a little more of a twist to the original "experience machine" hypothetical that your Star Trek episode brings up.
I wouldn't necessarily see this as a straight "Would you hook up to the pleasure machine?"
I would see this as more of a question of… -
Eikadistes
December 4, 2025 at 6:01 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Don’s post in the thread Hypotheticals: Would An Epicurean Hook Himself Up To An "Experience Machine" or a "Pleasure Machine"?.
There's a little more of a twist to the original "experience machine" hypothetical that your Star Trek episode brings up.
I wouldn't necessarily see this as a straight "Would you hook up to the pleasure machine?"
I would see this as more of a question of… -
Don
PostDecember 4, 2025 at 5:18 PM There's a little more of a twist to the original "experience machine" hypothetical that your Star Trek episode brings up.
I wouldn't necessarily see this as a straight "Would you hook up to the pleasure machine?"
I would see this as more of a question of… -
Cassius
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Cassius
December 4, 2025 at 11:30 AM Replied to the thread Happiness As Not Requiring Complete Absence of Pain.PostAlso from section 14 of the same chapter:
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Bryan
December 4, 2025 at 11:27 AM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Cassius’s post in the thread Episode 310 - TD38 - Not Yet Released - Happiness Is Not A Binary State.
Notes during editing:
I set up a separate thread for the issue of Happiness not requiring absolute absence of pain, and I'm going to name this episode something to the effect that Epicurus does not consider Happiness to be a binary state (where the only… -
Bryan
December 4, 2025 at 11:27 AM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Joshua’s post in the thread Episode 310 - TD38 - Not Yet Released - Happiness Is Not A Binary State.
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