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Kalosyni
November 29, 2025 at 5:36 PM Replied to the thread Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry.PostHow do I know what desires fall into the various categories of natural and necessary desires, and are there hard and fast rules about how to apply the resulting categorization of a particular desire I am considering?"
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Kalosyni
November 29, 2025 at 5:15 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Matteng’s post in the thread Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry.
A strict rule based decision making I find difficult, we need always sober reasoning/prudence to judge/feel the consequences and the context to make good choices/avoidances.
But for orientation I see it currently like this table:
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Kalosyni
November 29, 2025 at 5:14 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Godfrey’s post in the thread Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry.
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This is well said and definitely bears repeating. -
Cassius
November 29, 2025 at 4:03 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Godfrey’s post in the thread Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry.
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Godfrey
November 29, 2025 at 3:32 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Kalosyni’s post in the thread What's the consensus on transhumanism/brain uploading?.
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I think that there is a difference between saying that "death i s nothing to us [me]"...vs..."death means nothing to us [me]".
Maybe I am splitting hairs here...but...
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Godfrey
Reaction (Post)November 29, 2025 at 3:30 PM Here's an interesting recent paper out of Germany on three different levels or degrees of consciousness in humans and some animals. The discussion deals with some Epicurean concepts as it posits the physical capabilities of consciousness that humans… -
Godfrey
November 29, 2025 at 3:27 PM Replied to the thread Latest Thoughts On Natural and Necessary Classification of Desires - Adding A FAQ entry.Post[…]
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Don
November 29, 2025 at 3:01 PM Reacted withReaction (Post)to Kalosyni’s post in the thread What's the consensus on transhumanism/brain uploading?.
There is a hubris here in thinking that everything that humans imagine can eventually be technologically created...the hubris is in the idea of going beyond Nature, and the nature of things ("atoms/void").
Regarding the word hubris:
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Kalosyni
November 29, 2025 at 2:19 PM Replied to the thread What's the consensus on transhumanism/brain uploading?.PostThere is a hubris here in thinking that everything that humans imagine can eventually be technologically created...the hubris is in the idea of going beyond Nature, and the nature of things ("atoms/void").
Regarding the word hubris:
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Don
Reaction (Post)November 29, 2025 at 1:06 PM Here's an interesting recent paper out of Germany on three different levels or degrees of consciousness in humans and some animals. The discussion deals with some Epicurean concepts as it posits the physical capabilities of consciousness that humans…
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