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  • Bryan July 6, 2026 at 12:20 AM

    Reacted with Like to Cassius’s post in the thread Welcome Max Duboff.
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    As to Emily Austin, here's footnote 8 from Chapter 4 of Living For Pleasure

  • Bryan July 5, 2026 at 11:14 PM

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    If I'm being invoked, I feel I need to expand my thoughts on this. Cassius , what I think you're referring to is this below where I wrote:

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    I'll freely admit that "etc." is doing a lot of heaving lifting.

    As for a what Epicurus thinks is covered…

  • Bryan July 5, 2026 at 11:11 PM

    Reacted with Thanks to Cassius’s post in the thread Welcome Max Duboff.
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    Max, thank you for working through all of this so carefully.

    On the question Would a tranquil person with no friends, no joys, no positive pleasures — just an undisturbed, empty mind — count as having achieved the blessed life in full?, you wrote:

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  • Don July 5, 2026 at 10:14 PM

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    If I'm being invoked, I feel I need to expand my thoughts on this. Cassius , what I think you're referring to is this below where I wrote:

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    I'll freely admit that "etc." is doing a lot of heaving lifting.

    As for a what Epicurus thinks is covered…

  • Cassius July 5, 2026 at 8:29 PM

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    Max, thank you for working through all of this so carefully.

    On the question Would a tranquil person with no friends, no joys, no positive pleasures — just an undisturbed, empty mind — count as having achieved the blessed life in full?, you wrote:

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    I…

  • Patrikios July 5, 2026 at 7:46 PM

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    Patrikios - Here is are some comparisons to textual references in Epicurean philosophy, mapped according to some of the points in Post 1 above (although some of these may be more loosely related)...

    Cultivate Gratitude

    “The wealth demanded by nature…

  • Cassius July 5, 2026 at 4:25 PM

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    Thank you Max for all the detailed responses!

  • Godfrey July 5, 2026 at 4:05 PM

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    This is an intriguing comment!

    A pleasure with no intensity would, to me, describe a neutral state, which of course doesn't exist for Epicurus in the pleasure/pain relationship. This is why I prefer "complete" to "perfect". To my understanding a…

  • Max DuBoff July 5, 2026 at 3:35 PM

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    100% agree with this, Don.

    Also, in response to Pacatus, yes, pleasures/pain (i.e., pathē in the epistemological sense) are closely linked to sense-perceptions (aisthēseis). That has to be true even for katastematic pleasures.

  • Max DuBoff July 5, 2026 at 3:32 PM

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    :D LOL Ya think so?

    We have to be careful and not conflate pleasures with desires. There are not necessary, natural, and empty pleasures. There are necessary, natural, and empty desires.

    Anything that brings pleasure is good, but some pleasures are not…

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