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Cassius
PostJuly 18, 2026 at 5:08 PM My posting of this earlier in this thread and Pacatus' reminder have in turn reminded me that this is where we were in 2019 - almost seven years ago to the day.
We've come a long way since then - in many ways forward - but we still don't have many… -
Cassius
PostJuly 18, 2026 at 4:08 PM Let me expand further on what I have said in some of these recent comments.
When Epicurus says that he is not able to conceive the good without the pleasures that he mentions, all of those pleasures he mentions are "active" - not "katastematic" under the… -
Godfrey
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Patrikios
Reaction (Post)July 18, 2026 at 2:24 PM I am a little late in joining this discussion, and may or may not say much more.
I object to using the word tranquility for the following reasons:
Translating the ancient Greek concept of ataraxia as strictly "tranquility" is considered somewhat inaccurate… -
Patrikios
Reaction (Post)July 18, 2026 at 2:16 PM Max DuBoff : I want to really emphasize that I greatly appreciate your willingness to engage on these topics. This thread has grown WAY beyond a "Welcome Max DuBoff "
so this has been both intellectually stimulating and fun. Thank you.
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Pacatus
Reaction (Post)July 18, 2026 at 11:54 AM Just for fun, my illustration of many pleasures:
epicureanfriends.com/wcf/galle…-many-facets-of-pleasure/
I may need to update this (which I made back in 2024) and add more subtitles: "pleasures of the mind" (and which can include planning… -
Pacatus
Reaction (Post)July 18, 2026 at 11:53 AM […]
There's absolutely no doubt --most people are scared to death of the term, and they would never want to be associated with a philosophy of pleasure - especially in Academia.
Since there's a lot of criticism of negativity embedded in this discussion I… -
Patrikios
Reaction (Post)July 18, 2026 at 10:46 AM […]
I think it's a jump to always immediately go from discussion of the importance of tranquility/ataraxia to seeing this as an endorsement of asceticism. I don't necessarily see people who write "tranquility is the ultimate pleasure" or "tranquility is… -
Cassius
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Kalosyni
PostJuly 18, 2026 at 7:26 AM Just for fun, my illustration of many pleasures:
epicureanfriends.com/wcf/galle…-many-facets-of-pleasure/
I may need to update this (which I made back in 2024) and add more subtitles: "pleasures of the mind" (and which can include planning…
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