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New Graphics: Are You On Team Epicurus? | Comparison Chart: Epicurus vs. Other Philosophies | Chart Of Key Epicurean Quotations | Accelerating Study Of Canonics Through Philodemus' "On Methods Of Inference" | Note to all users: If you have a problem posting in any forum, please message Cassius  

  • 21st Century Epicurean (My Blog) -- An Exploration of Minimalism Leads to Hygge

    • Kalosyni
    • October 13, 2022 at 9:13 AM

    Here is my latest blog post -- just some personal musings (and two links to further info) for anyone thinking about making improvements to one's own environs.

    An Epicurean Exploration of Minimalism Leads to Hygge
    I am not a minimalist, but I have read various articles on the internet about adopting minimalist tips. I can see that the benefits and pl...
    epicureanphilosophyblog.blogspot.com
  • October 12, 2022 - Wednesday Night Epicurean Zoom Discussion

    • Kalosyni
    • October 10, 2022 at 2:50 PM

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 10, 2022 at 2:34 PM

    By the way Don, I didn't know either until I looked it up :D

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 10, 2022 at 2:32 PM
    Quote from Don

    LOL! I didn't even know what "calumny" was! ^^

    ---especially the synonyms: insults, slights, bad-mouthing (see synonyms below).

    Was Phyrrho really an uneducated fool? (I will have to research that).

    From Google, --the making of false and defamatory statements about someone in order to damage their reputation; slander.

    "a bitter struggle marked by calumny and litigation"

    synonyms: slander, defamation (of character), character assassination, misrepresentation of character, evil-speaking, calumniation, libel, scandalmongering, malicious gossip, muckraking, smear campaign, disparagement, denigration, derogation, aspersions, vilification, traducement, obloquy, verbal abuse, backbiting, vituperation, revilement, scurrility, lies, slurs, smears, untruths, false accusations, false reports, insults, slights, mudslinging, bad-mouthing, contumely

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 10, 2022 at 9:11 AM

    My stance regarding calumny is that I would want to believe that Epicurus would not have said what Diogenes Laertius wrote, because Epicurus focused on what the senses perceive. This means that any criticism would have been spoken in this way: X said "xyz" which is incorrect because of such and such Epicurean physics, etc. ---- or X is wearing his toga with red stains of the wine we saw him spill last night (this is just a hypothetical example of specific observations). So he would not have used abstract ideas which are vague categories which pigeon hole a person as forever having the same character (branding someone as a permanent cheat, etc.) and which would be very Aristotilian and much like something that Aristippus of Cyrene would have said.

    On the other hand we can't know for sure about all this.

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 9, 2022 at 8:53 PM
    Quote from Cassius

    I gather that you're saying that developing calumny into an "art" might not be a good idea, rather than that all calumny is a bad idea, since Epicurus himself was apparently regularly engaged in it!

    I have a hard time believing that Epicurus would have said all that, because it doesn't fit with the Principle Doctrines. The source for all that is Diogenes Laertius, and what he wrote was what was said by Timocrates,

    (the brother of Metrodorus, who was his disciple and then

    left the school.)

    Diogenes Laertius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers, BOOK X, EPICURUS (341-271 B.C.)

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 9, 2022 at 1:02 PM

    On the subject of the "art of calumny" -- I will simply say that it would not fit well with PD5:

    "PD5: It is not possible to live joyously without also living wisely and beautifully and rightly, nor to live wisely and beautifully and rightly without living joyously; and whoever lacks this cannot live joyously."

    Also, I found this very interesting painting:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calumny_o…les_(Botticelli)

    and which has an interesting write up.

  • An Epicurean Study of Aristotle's Nichomachean Ethics

    • Kalosyni
    • October 8, 2022 at 9:10 AM

    I feel the sense of "domination" of all of history, and the undercurrent of Christianity continues with the use of BC/AD. I would say we all need to stand up for freedom from religion by using neutral year signifiers. Unfortunately "HE" may be too big of a shift for many people, and of course Christians would not go for it at all. (although I can image that people of other faiths would support it).

    And there at times seems to be little use of BCE and CE -- Wikipedia doesn't use it.

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    Style Guides on Religious Neutrality

    The choice may be up to you and your style guide. The 17th edition of the "Chicago Manual of Style (published in 2017) suggests that the choice is up to the writer and should be flagged only if the customs of a specific field or community are being violated:

    Quote
    "Many authors use BC and AD because they are familiar and conventionally understood. Those who want to avoid reference to Christianity are free to do so."

    In terms of secular journalism, the 2019 version of the Associated Press Stylebook uses B.C. and A.D. (using the periods); as does the fourth edition of the UPI Style Guide, published in 2004. The use of BC and BCE is commonly found in articles concerning academic and lay historical research—including ThoughtCo.com—but not exclusively.

    Despite rumors to the contrary, the entire BBC has not dropped the use of AD/BC, but its Religion & Ethics department, which prides itself on providing religion-neutral stories, has:

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    "As the BBC is committed to impartiality, it is appropriate that we use terms that do not offend or alienate non-Christians. In line with modern practice, B.C.E./C.E. (Before Common Era/Common Era) are used as a religiously neutral alternative to B.C./A.D."

    https://www.thoughtco.com/when-to-use-ad-or-ce-116687

    (Anyway, just had to throw this in).

    Don, looking forward to reading your notes on Nichomachean Ethics!

  • Sculptures Damaged at the Vatican

    • Kalosyni
    • October 8, 2022 at 8:35 AM

    I saw this too, a different article, yesterday which said that a nose was broken off one (but don't remember what it said about the other one).

    This article suggests that the person had a mental heallth problem and randomly grabbed one, and the second one fell while he was trying to escape the scene.

    Seems like they should put them behind glass protectors, or they need to more securely mount them.

  • Thoughts on Categorizing Desires: Natural, Necessary, and Vain

    • Kalosyni
    • October 7, 2022 at 6:07 PM

    Thank you Titus for your feedback. I decided not to use "natural but unnecessary" category to see if I could create something very direct and usable. Something only becomes "unnecessary" if it causes much pain or trouble -- so the prediction of the end result determines the decision to say that something is "unnecessary".

    And this also means that there is not any absolute labels of a specific activity. This means that if someone chooses to run for a political office, then their choice to do so is because it will bring them more pleasure than pain. (Perhaps it was much more dangerous back in Epicurus' time, compared to now.)

  • Questions Re PD 26 - PD30 From the 10/5/22 Zoom

    • Kalosyni
    • October 7, 2022 at 11:33 AM
    Quote from Don

    It seems to me the three are more editions of the same text rather than thinking of them as three different "versions."

    Thank you Don for clarifying that :)

  • Thoughts on Categorizing Desires: Natural, Necessary, and Vain

    • Kalosyni
    • October 7, 2022 at 9:55 AM

    A recent thread diving deeper into Principle Doctrines 26 and 30, had me thinking again to investigate if it is possible to categorize desires, so here is my attempt (suggest changes or additions please):


    Natural and necessary for health of the bodyNecessary for happiness and health of the mindVain and unnecessary
    food/waterconfidence in the means for future food/security


    Insisting that one must have an exact type of food or other good which is unobtainable, dangerous, or very difficult to procure
    shelter/clothingself-sufficiency/libertychoices which lead to a life of greater pains
    human interaction (safety and procurement of necessities)good friendship choices which deplete funds needed for future security
    exercisemental engagement -- thinking, learning, and memory
    sexual releaserelief from fear of death and the gods
    pleasant and pleasurable engagement of the senses
  • Questions Re PD 26 - PD30 From the 10/5/22 Zoom

    • Kalosyni
    • October 7, 2022 at 9:30 AM

    The "Epicurus in Lycia" source says three different versions of KD's !!!

  • Welcome Ben!

    • Kalosyni
    • October 4, 2022 at 8:18 PM

    Welcome to the forum Ben!

  • New Article on the Inscription (And the "Bitter Gift" Misattribution)

    • Kalosyni
    • October 3, 2022 at 7:20 PM
    Quote from Don

    By Zeus! "Bitter gift" shows up everywhere!!

    Quote from Don

    Although "gift" sets up the idea that there's a giver so that's a bit problematic.

    I have to say it is not necessarily "everywhere".

    I think it may be an attempted smear campaign, because it is on a few Christian websites. But it is very upsetting that it is on the wikipedia website (and this wikipedia is poorly/incorrectly written).

  • New Article on the Inscription (And the "Bitter Gift" Misattribution)

    • Kalosyni
    • October 3, 2022 at 6:43 PM

    Maybe Joshua has some insights, as I see a reference to "bitter gift" from an Ancient Greek tragedy Hippolytus by Euripides ("bitter gift" of Poseidon):

    The Greek Plays
    books.google.com
  • October 5, 2022 - Wednesday Night Epicurean Philosophy Zoom Gathering - PD 29 & 30

    • Kalosyni
    • October 1, 2022 at 8:00 PM

  • Social Media - Facebook

    • Kalosyni
    • October 1, 2022 at 8:55 AM

    This morning a song came to mind. When I was a teen I went to private singing lessons and my teacher had me practice Broadway hits. One song that stuck with me is from Oaklahoma (and since back in time I had no idea of the story line from this play it has a kind of simplicity for me).

    Part of the lyrics:

    Oh, what a beautiful mornin'
    Oh, what a beautiful day
    I've got a beautiful feelin'
    Everything's goin' my way

    And further thoughts -- that there are so many variations of feelings, and sometimes thinking about them makes it even better!

    But I would say that the consideration of happiness is very important, and any kind of furtherance of Epicureanism will depend upon how we present our ideas of happiness, what happiness is, and how to increase happiness. :)

  • Social Media - Facebook

    • Kalosyni
    • September 30, 2022 at 10:22 AM
    Quote from Cassius

    How do you set up an outline of Epicurean happiness without ever mentioning "pleasure"?


    But after laughing out loud it really make me mad, or better stated, resolved to do as much as possible to improve the situation.

    Right! And so how would we list The Factors of Happiness?

    -- the study of philosophy (and right understanding of death/God/choices & avoidances, etc.)

    -- good friends

    -- the daily fullness of pleasure

    -- ?

    -- ?

  • Welcome Sid!

    • Kalosyni
    • September 29, 2022 at 10:05 AM

    Welcome to the forum Sid :)

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