1. New
    1. Member Announcements
  2. Home
    1. Get Started - Activities
    2. Posting Policies
    3. Community Standards
    4. Terms of Use
    5. Moderator Team
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
      2. Blog Posts at EpicureanFriends
  3. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Physics
    5. Canonics
    6. Ethics
    7. Search Assistance
    8. Not NeoEpicurean
    9. Foundations
    10. Navigation Outlines
    11. Key Pages
  4. Forum
    1. New Activity
    2. New Threads
    3. Welcome
    4. General Discussion
    5. Featured
    6. Activism
    7. Shortcuts
    8. Dashboard
    9. Full Forum List
    10. Level 3+
    11. Most Discussed
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Sayings
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. Calendar
    1. Upcoming Events List
    2. Zoom Meetings
    3. This Month
    4. First Monday Zoom Meetings
    5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    6. Twentieth Zoom Meetings
    7. Zoom Meetings
  9. Other
    1. Featured Content
    2. Blog Posts
    3. Files
    4. Logbook
    5. EF ToDo List
    6. Link-Database
  • Login
  • Register
  • Search
Blog Articles
  • Everywhere
  • Forum
  • Articles
  • Blog Articles
  • Files
  • Gallery
  • Events
  • Pages
  • Wiki
  • Help
  • FAQ
  • More Options

Welcome To EpicureanFriends.com!

"Remember that you are mortal, and you have a limited time to live, and in devoting yourself to discussion of the nature of time and eternity you have seen things that have been, are now, and are to come."

Sign In Now
or
Register a new account
  1. New
    1. Member Announcements
  2. Home
    1. Get Started - Activities
    2. Posting Policies
    3. Community Standards
    4. Terms of Use
    5. Moderator Team
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
      2. Blog Posts at EpicureanFriends
  3. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Physics
    5. Canonics
    6. Ethics
    7. Search Assistance
    8. Not NeoEpicurean
    9. Foundations
    10. Navigation Outlines
    11. Key Pages
  4. Forum
    1. New Activity
    2. New Threads
    3. Welcome
    4. General Discussion
    5. Featured
    6. Activism
    7. Shortcuts
    8. Dashboard
    9. Full Forum List
    10. Level 3+
    11. Most Discussed
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Sayings
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. Calendar
    1. Upcoming Events List
    2. Zoom Meetings
    3. This Month
    4. First Monday Zoom Meetings
    5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    6. Twentieth Zoom Meetings
    7. Zoom Meetings
  9. Other
    1. Featured Content
    2. Blog Posts
    3. Files
    4. Logbook
    5. EF ToDo List
    6. Link-Database
  1. New
    1. Member Announcements
  2. Home
    1. Get Started - Activities
    2. Posting Policies
    3. Community Standards
    4. Terms of Use
    5. Moderator Team
    6. Site Map
    7. Quizzes
    8. Articles
      1. Featured Articles
      2. Blog Posts at EpicureanFriends
  3. Wiki
    1. Wiki Home
    2. FAQ
    3. Classical Epicureanism
    4. Physics
    5. Canonics
    6. Ethics
    7. Search Assistance
    8. Not NeoEpicurean
    9. Foundations
    10. Navigation Outlines
    11. Key Pages
  4. Forum
    1. New Activity
    2. New Threads
    3. Welcome
    4. General Discussion
    5. Featured
    6. Activism
    7. Shortcuts
    8. Dashboard
    9. Full Forum List
    10. Level 3+
    11. Most Discussed
  5. Podcast
    1. Lucretius Today Podcast
    2. Episode Guide
    3. Lucretius Today At Youtube
    4. EpicureanFriends Youtube Page
  6. Texts
    1. Overview
    2. Diogenes Laertius
    3. Principal Doctrines
    4. Vatican Sayings
    5. Lucretius
    6. Herodotus
    7. Pythocles
    8. Menoeceus
    9. Fragments - Usener Collection
    10. Torquatus On Ethics
    11. Velleius On Gods
    12. Greek/Latin Help
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured images
    2. Albums
    3. Latest Images
    4. Latest Comments
  8. Calendar
    1. Upcoming Events List
    2. Zoom Meetings
    3. This Month
    4. First Monday Zoom Meetings
    5. Wednesday Zoom Meeting
    6. Twentieth Zoom Meetings
    7. Zoom Meetings
  9. Other
    1. Featured Content
    2. Blog Posts
    3. Files
    4. Logbook
    5. EF ToDo List
    6. Link-Database
  1. EpicureanFriends - Home of Classical Epicurean Philosophy
  2. Blogs At EpicureanFriends.com
  3. Cassius' Blog
  • Sidebar
  • Sidebar

The Epicurean Critique of Mathematics

  • Cassius
  • July 16, 2017 at 11:02 AM
  • 2,293 times read
Regularly Checking In On A Small Screen Device? Bookmark THIS page!

The Epicurean Critique of Mathematics

I just received this link and have not had a chance to read it but the topic seems fascinating ("The Epicurean Critique of Mathematics") and it comes to us through our friends in Greece. Please read and comment when you can either here or at the Facebook group! http://scholarship.claremont.edu/jhm/vol7/iss2/9/

Update: There's a lot of good information in this article that will be helpful for anyone who wants to read up on the subject. However after finishing it I am sorry to conclude that it doesn't ultimately seem to appreciate the Epicurean position as reflected by what one of our group members posted - " The map is not the territory, regardless of how useful or up-to-date it is."

So to save people some effort, here's the concluding paragraph, and based on it they can decide how much time they'd like to invest:

"The Epicureans, in general, did not have mathematics among their primary philosophical interests. That, of course, excludes the more mathematically inclined Epicureans such as Zeno. Yet, their belief that all knowledge is empirical and the inductive logic that guided their philosophy [21] do not seem to align with some of the most important aspects of mathematics, such as abstraction, axiomatic method and proof. Perhaps, the Epicureans could be justified in a way, as neither science nor mathematics were as advanced then as today, and they did not have a complete picture. It is possible that, today, they could have seen mathematics in a quite different way and recognized some of its special aspects."

  • Share
  • Previous Article Epicurean Meetings and Conventions
  • Next Article You Have Been Deceived!

Epicurean Philosophy
A Navigation Chart
Epicurean Philosophy...
ATOMICS
Nothing Except Atoms And Void Have Eternal and Unchanging Properties. The Atoms Are Constantly In Motion, But Not So Fast That We Cannot Comprehend Truth As To The Nature Of The Universe, Knowledge, and How To Live
ATOMICS...
PHYSICS
Nature of The Universe
PHYSICS...
Nothing From Nothing Or To Nothing
Nothing From N...
Atomic Swerve and Rejection of Determinism
Atomic Swerve...
CANONICS
Nature of Knowledge
CANONICS...
Senses, Feelings, and Anticipations, Are Criteria of Knowledge
Senses, Feelin...
Priority of Nature Over Reason
Priority of Na...
Eternal - Boundless - Life-Filled Universe
Eternal and Bo...
All Sensations Are "True"
All Sensations...
Embrace of Practical Reason
Embrace of Practical Reason
Nothing Is Supernatural - No Gods Over Nature
Nothing Is Supernatural - No G...
Nothing But Atoms Are Eternal - No Immortal Soul
Nothing But At...
Knowledge Is Possible
Knowledge Is P...
Rejection of Platonic Idealism and Aristotelian Essences
Rejection of Platonic Idealism...
Rejection of Dialectical Logic and Skepticism
Rejection of Dialectical Logic...
Pain Is Manageable - It Is Short If Intense, Endurable If Long, And Terminable By Death.
Pain Is Managea...
Mental Pleasures And Pains Can Be More Significant Than Bodily Pleasures And Pains
Mental Pleasure...
Pain is Undesirable - But Pain Should Be Chosen When Greater Pleasure Or Lesser Pain Results
Pain is Undesira...
Pleasure Is Desirable - Pleasure Is The Alpha and Omega And Guide Of Life
Pleasure Is Desi...
Pleasure Includes All Bodily And Mental Experiences Which Are Not Painful - There Is No Pain Where Pleasure Is Present - and Thus Pleasure Is Present Where Pain Is Absent
Pleasure Includes All...
There Are Only Two Categories of Feelings - Pleasure and Pain - And Nature Gives Nothing Else By Which To Determine What to Choose and What to Avoid
There Are Only Two Ca...
Pleasure Has A Limit In Quantity That Can Be Experienced, And That Limit Is Reached When All Bodily And Mental Experiences Are Filled With Pleasure And No Pain Is Present
Pleasure Has A Limit In...
Rejection Of Absolute Virtue, But Embrace Of Practical Virtue As Instrumental For Achieving A Life of Pleasure
Rejection Of Absolute Virtue, But Embrace Of Practical Virtue As Inst...
Personal Freedom, Responsibility, And Proper Attitude Toward "The Gods" and "Fate"
Personal Freedom, Responsibility,...
Only This Life And This World - No Other World Or Reward Or Punishment After Death
Only This Life And This World - N...
Friendship
Friendship
Prudence
Prudence
Justice
Justice
Courage
Courage
Confidence
Confidence
Honesty
Honesty
Temperance
Temperance
Beneficence
Beneficence
Hope
Hope
Considerateness
Considerateness
Living In Present
Living In Present
Gratitude
Gratitude
ETHICS - Nature of How To Live
ETHICS - Nature of How To Live
Rejection of Reductionist Atomism
Rejection of...
Text is not SVG - cannot display

If you are viewing this on a wide-screen format, click over to a landscape version here or on the graphic below. Both formats can be zoomed to whatever resolution is desired.


For a work-in-progress text version of this navigation outline click here.

Unread Threads

    1. Title
    2. Replies
    3. Last Reply
    1. ⟐ as the symbol of the philosophy of Epicurus 33

      • Like 1
      • michelepinto
      • March 18, 2021 at 11:59 AM
      • General Discussion
      • michelepinto
      • May 10, 2025 at 8:12 PM
    2. Replies
      33
      Views
      7.1k
      33
    3. Kalosyni

      May 10, 2025 at 8:12 PM
    1. Is All Desire Painful? How Would Epicurus Answer? 24

      • Like 1
      • Cassius
      • May 7, 2025 at 10:02 PM
      • General Discussion
      • Cassius
      • May 10, 2025 at 3:42 PM
    2. Replies
      24
      Views
      740
      24
    3. sanantoniogarden

      May 10, 2025 at 3:42 PM
    1. Pompeii Then and Now 7

      • Like 2
      • kochiekoch
      • January 22, 2025 at 1:19 PM
      • General Discussion
      • kochiekoch
      • May 8, 2025 at 3:50 PM
    2. Replies
      7
      Views
      1k
      7
    3. kochiekoch

      May 8, 2025 at 3:50 PM
    1. Names of Bits of Reality 4

      • Thanks 2
      • Eikadistes
      • May 8, 2025 at 12:12 PM
      • General Discussion
      • Eikadistes
      • May 8, 2025 at 1:31 PM
    2. Replies
      4
      Views
      214
      4
    3. Eikadistes

      May 8, 2025 at 1:31 PM
    1. Why pursue unnecessary desires? 74

      • Like 1
      • Rolf
      • May 2, 2025 at 12:41 PM
      • General Discussion
      • Rolf
      • May 8, 2025 at 12:17 AM
    2. Replies
      74
      Views
      2.1k
      74
    3. Joshua

      May 8, 2025 at 12:17 AM

Categories

  • Epicurean Physics

Archive

  1. 2024 (3)
    1. February (1)
    2. January (2)
  2. 2023 (4)
    1. November (1)
    2. October (1)
    3. March (2)
  3. 2022 (1)
    1. November (1)
  4. 2021 (1)
    1. April (1)
  5. 2020 (4)
    1. November (1)
    2. June (1)
    3. May (2)
  6. 2019 (8)
    1. November (1)
    2. September (2)
    3. July (3)
    4. March (1)
    5. February (1)
  7. 2018 (8)
    1. November (2)
    2. October (1)
    3. January (5)
  8. 2017 (15)
    1. November (2)
    2. July (6)
      • The Epicurean Critique of Mathematics
      • Epicurean Meetings and Conventions
      • A Link From Ancient to Modern Greece – Liantinis' “Gemma”
      • Another Important Step Toward Correcting the Record On Epicurus and Living A Better Life Today - "Epicurus and the Pleasant Life"
      • "When the Gospel of Minimalism Collides With Daily Life"
      • "On Epicurean Extremes" - at the Menoeceus Blog
    3. June (7)

EpicureanFriends - Classical Epicurean Philosophy

  1. Home
    1. About Us
    2. Classical Epicurean Philosophy
  2. Wiki
    1. Getting Started
  3. Frequently Asked Questions
    1. Site Map
  4. Forum
    1. Latest Threads
    2. Featured Threads
    3. Unread Posts
  5. Texts
    1. Core Texts
    2. Biography of Epicurus
    3. Lucretius
  6. Articles
    1. Latest Articles
  7. Gallery
    1. Featured Images
  8. Calendar
    1. This Month At EpicureanFriends
Powered by WoltLab Suite™ 6.0.22
Style: Inspire by cls-design
Stylename
Inspire
Manufacturer
cls-design
Licence
Commercial styles
Help
Supportforum
Visit cls-design