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Welcome to Episode Ninety-Seven of Lucretius Today. This is a podcast dedicated to the poet Lucretius, who wrote "On The Nature of Things," the only complete presentation of Epicurean philosophy left to us from the ancient world. I am your host Cassius, and together with our panelists from the EpicureanFriends.com forum, we'll walk you through the six books of Lucretius' poem, and we'll discuss how Epicurean philosophy can apply to you today. We encourage you to study Epicurus for yourself, and …

Editing is coming along on this one and it should be up by midday Friday, followed shortly by Joshua's full recording of the Torquatus text from On Ends. I think I will first post that to my account at Archive.org so it has a separate home that is easy to find, with a separate discussion thread here, rather than simply include it as a regular podcast episode.

I think I have some old recordings made by text to speech, but I don't recall. I definitely want to put our full podcast series there too as a more permanent place for it.

Episode Ninety-Seven of the Lucretius Today Podcast is now available. In this episode we continue our examination of the virtues as instrumental for pleasure, with the focus this week on "temperance" and courage. spreaker.com/episode/47670385

I don't mean this to be arguing with Kalosyni in any way but the quote (which is a good find) seems to me to be very helpful in explaining my contrarian view: (Quote) These guys are fooling no one but themselves if they think that there is an ideal of "moderation" or "ideal quantity" that has some absolute value separate from circumstances that can be referenced by referring to "moderation" in and of itself. Instead, what there is in place of that is always a quantity that makes sense based on c…

(Quote from Don) Great question and if we can't find it at all then that is good evidence in itself.

This conversation reminds me of a euphemism that was popular in the past for companies that wanted to fire large numbers of people without admitting what they were doing - they would call it "right-sizing." That's pretty much how I see anything good that exists in the term "moderation" - as meaning selecting whatever quantity that produces the most beneficial result under the circumstances.