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  • Most of the writing I have done on this topic so far is here: http://www.epicureanfriends.co…/meetings_and_conventions That link contains links to the Sydney meetup page, which is probably the first place to look for ideas. For ease of reference below is what it says as of 1/8/18. I will work to update that page as we make progress in discussing the topic here. Epicurean Meetings and Conventions New: Meetup Handouts In most parts of the world, there are at present very few opportunities for regu…
  • Suggestion for a main photo for a new Meetup Group: EpicurusMeetupMain.jpg
  • I am about to conclude that using Meetup as a method of setting up a local group is a dead end. I think Hiram reported something similar, and I know that my own efforts have yielded nothing. I also gather that Elayne's success has been limited. Possibly the issue is that the type of person who frequents Meetup is just a casual user looking for something superficial (like Stoicism at the deepest). Even if such people attend an initial meeting or two, they are likely to drop away when they find th…
  • I think what is coming into focus is that in terms of real-life meetings, we're almost going to have to find a way to do some shotgun style advertising to draw as many people as we can into what may almost be a lecture-like environment, and hope that maybe 5% or some very small number will have enough interest to come out. I am thinking that Meetup is so heavily oriented to a "lonely-hearts club" type person (and I am not criticizing that) that the people we will find there will be even less mot…
  • I have not heard of any efforts except Elayne since that date. She had several meetings. I eventually dropped my account for lack of response, but in hindsight I should have set up something even though only a few people replied. I kept waiting for more to sign up but I probably should have followed the rule of "strike while the iron is hot" and gone forward shortly after posting the group even though only 2 or 3 responded.
  • Three years after starting this thread my current thought is that a critical component of any local group or online initiative is going to be keeping the focus on just a couple of core unifying ideas and working hard to keep political division and foreign philosophical interests (primarily Stoicism) out of the mix. Just as with the graphic at the top of the right sidebar, it seems to me that the most key components that are of central interest in 2021 are probably: 1 - No supernatural gods 2 - N…
  • To avoid sidetracking this thread, I am going to start a new thread to document text citations that support each of these four assertions: 1 - No supernatural gods 2 - No life after death 3 - Pleasure as the goal or beginning and end of blessed life 4. - All good and evil consists in sensation (or something else conveying that there is no absolute virtue / the goal of virtue is pleasure) That thread will be here: Four Hyper-Relevant Assertions of Epicurus (Citations From The Epicurean Texts)
  • That is a very good point Elayne and something that needs to be considered, especially when writing an explanation of the point. In stating the four in most succinct form, however, I think it is important to stay a closely as possible to the wording of Epicurus or the most reliable texts, and the translations of that seem to all say "sensation." Now it might be relevant here to go back to what Don has been pointing out that perhaps "internal sensations" is better than feelings. This is the kind …
  • Yes Don and while I have the highest respect and gratitude for your translations, when the "classical experts" seem to agree that some kind of "feeling" or "sensation" is the better translation, we'll need to take a position on whether THEY are the ones who are picking from among the alternatives the word their notion of what is 'correct' or whether we are the ones doing that. I don't begin to have the ability to weigh in on whether they could be wrong, and in the confines of my own analysis I a…
  • Well we definitely want to get this wording as accurate as possible to avoid having to backtrack immediately in an explanation. However, at the same time, I doubt that the subtle difference between feelings or sensation or a similar word is the most important factor. The real "kick in the gut" to the opposing team is no so much specifying how all good and evil do arise from sensation or feeling as much the point that good and evil DO NOT arise from the gods, or from reason, or from anything abso…