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  • I liked that article, Hiram. For me, it all comes down to this line, that you quoted from Ilkka: (Quote)
  • (Quote)Agreed. However...Epicurus also taught that the virtues (honesty, sincerity), and vices (dishonesty, hipocrisy) are not inherently good or bad, but only to the extent that they produce pleasure or pain. It would be quite Epicurean to lie about your religious beliefs to people who are going to harm you if you tell the truth. Lying to your students or fellow Epicureans would be a bit more problematic. To be clear, I do not believe Epicurus was lying or trying to hedge his religious beliefs…