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  • I'd be interested in any getting any feedback regarding this list: An Epicurean Understanding of Pleasure 1) Do not pursue reckless or extravagant luxuries, but enjoy the occasional luxury should it happen to come your way. 2) Take action to eliminate bodily and mental pains, and enjoy the pleasure, tranquility, and peace of mind that comes as you eliminate hunger, thirst, fear, anxiety, stress, and boredom. 3) Study philosophy which leads to tranquility and peace of mind. 4) Cultivate and enjoy…
  • Thank you Cassius and @Godfrey...It's going to take me some time to "unpack" and digest your replies.
  • There are many interesting points made here by Cassius, Godfrey, Don. It seems to me that you can look at pleasure and pain as either additive or subtractive. So the subtractive way to look at pleasure, is that pain has been removed, and in it's place we now have pleasure. And since Epicurus says there is no neutral state of feelings, then that would mean that (for example) the pleasure of fun and entertainments has removed the pain of boredom. It is more appealing to me to see pleasure as addit…
  • After reading the above posts, some ideas come up: It seems that one could do a hedonic calculus when making choices, but if the underlying assumption is that short-term physical pleasures are equally as important as long-term mental pleasures, then the long-term results will be a mixed bag (pleasure mixed with pain or pleasure resulting in pain), and/or one will find oneself on a never-ending hedonic treadmill. So an Epicurean philosophy of life would be a life of guaranteed continuous pleasure…
  • Let me restate my idea: If one assumes that short-term pleasures provide the same benefits as long-term pleasures, then one will, at times, make choices that result in less pleasure and more pain. I vividly imagine Epicurus would welcome Cyreniacs into his Garden, because they could test out his wisdom and find personal benefit. And yes, we each must do our own choosing, and we will each experience the results of our choices. Sometimes one makes choice and then sees that something different coul…