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  • timrobbe -- in all of these examples, Frankl is ignoring that pleasure is exactly what creates the sense of meaningfulness! He is making the same mistake as the Cyrenaics-- only counting immediate present moment sensory pleasure as pleasure. Epicurus divided _all_ feelings into pleasure or pain, so the pleasure of meaningfulness, no matter what triggers it, is pleasure. IMO, I would avoid viewing friends as instruments, because that will decrease your pleasure in friendship. We have abundant ev…