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  • Ah yes Good vs. Evil and whether they exist as absolutes…the great debate. I feel these threads will be very active.
  • I could go very deep into this subject. I wonder if “logic” could ever play into this at all? Since the subject matter is entirely subjective and cultural. Without absolutes or or metaphysical evil, this would make for a very good discussion. But probably “user” beware, because this line of discussion could get intense quick.
  • Right, and honestly I suspect we will determine that broadly “evil” will ultimately be reduced to a subjective thing that is more in line with something that is culturally “unlawful” or “taboo” as opposed to giving any concrete absolutes that could universally be considered “wrong” in every place and every time.
  • What crossed my mind after reading this was ultimately nature directs human behavior. So for an explicit example (since I made a joke about this in another thread) Cannibalism is usually considered pretty taboo…today anyway! And is often considered by “most” people to be “wrong” or “evil.” In historical extreme survival situations where death is imminent, humans have resorted to cannibalism. Now the question becomes at what point is cannibalism considered evil and by what standard? Nature or hum…
  • A certain Dr. Lecter has appeared as a guest in the forum all of a sudden.
  • I will say I have also meditated on particular widespread groups that operate outside their own societal laws that perform “evil” acts. Such as the various central and South American cartels and crime syndicates. These people are literally the worst of the worst, and perform acts so heinous it would be a mental labor to describe them or categorize them…by “most” people’s standards they are truly evil. Not unlike other historical groups like certain pirates and even the Vikings fall into this cat…
  • Since we are not explicitly talking about this in terms of Epicurean philosophy, it still might be helpful for us to conceive of where ideas of evil began in history. In theological terms evil is usually associated with some supernatural presence that represents “negative” qualities, darkness or chaos. Either a god or a spirit. Evil deities were prevalent in the myths of the near east and responsible for many human problems. The Persians had Ahriman the dualistic hostile spirit that was the oppo…
  • I recommend all of Jeffery Burton Russell’s books for research into the subject of the anthropological origin of evil.
  • (Quote from Cassius) This is such an interesting idea. For me, my family’s preservation would be my only concern in the event of some catastrophe. My only real need to survive would be so that I am present to be able to defend and provide for them. A friend of mine said recently that when he was a Marine overseas, he would’ve been willing to die for his fellows without question, but now with his kids, he has so much more of a reason to live. So a biological imperative could theoretically change …
  • This whole topic has pushed my brain into an area of reflection about my individual perspectives of what my needs and wants are as a human being and what the agenda nature ultimately is.
  • And to be clear about my earlier post about dying for my children if no other options are available. It stands to reason because my need to stay alive is a necessity for their survival, that the particular act of self-sacrifice means that I will sacrifice myself unto an “active” external threat. Whether that means me getting hit by a bus or killed by another human or animal etc. I personally won’t be “opting out” by my own hand, because I can’t currently imagine a situation where if I did that i…
  • Yup anyone who is feeling “off”, depressed, or having ideations of hurting themselves should always seek professional medical help.